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how comes Fender...

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... is one of the few guitar-company's that are able to recreate or even exceed their finishes while Epiphoneys look like dipped in plastic? I mean... even the cheaper mexico versions (which are similar to Epis) are great looking guitars finish-wise...

I don't get it why a company with so many great guitars in history and some of the most beautiful finishes ever can't get the finishes on their new guitars right....

 

Sorry to be hanging on that subject so much but I just wished Epiphone would change their finishes to the better... it's such a pitty to see potential killer-guitars being dipped in inches of plastic making them basicly unplayable...

 

 

 

 

JM

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... is one of the few guitar-company's that are able to recreate or even exceed their finishes while Epiphoneys look like dipped in plastic? I mean... even the cheaper mexico versions (which are similar to Epis) are great looking guitars finish-wise...

I don't get it why a company with so many great guitars in history and some of the most beautiful finishes ever can't get the finishes on their new guitars right....

 

Sorry to be hanging on that subject so much but I just wished Epiphone would change their finishes to the better... it's such a pitty to see potential killer-guitars being dipped in inches of plastic making them basicly unplayable...JM

Apparently, Epiphone pays about the same amount of attention to the quality of their finishes as you do to your spelling and grammar. I'm not just being flip here - carelessness is an epidemic (pun intended).

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should I delete the #1 response???? Hrmmmmmm....... it is off topic..... I let John decide if he wants the #1 response toasted, since this is his thread:-k

 

I'll come back to this after I finish my cup of tea.

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Epiphone...built to last a thousand years.

 

Exactly!

 

You see, in a thousand years the finish will have worn away enough to be just perfect. All you've got to do is be patient...

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mdakp6.gif ........ Then buy something else ....

 

But I don't wanna! And this was supposed to be constructive criticism, not an attack on Epiphone, 'cause I love epis so much and I don't want to see this company go down the gutter... :- :-& :-

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how comes Fender is one of the few guitar-company's that are able to recreate or even exceed their finishes...

 

Probably because most Fender finishes (solid colors at least) can be matched with a steady hand and a can of Krylon?

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Probably because most Fender finishes (solid colors at least) can be matched with a steady hand and a can of Krylon?

 

I must agree. In my old age I'm starting to develop an appreciation for Fender guitars, but, with their modular electronics-on-pickguard construction (the Strats) and bolt-on necks, they ARE simpler guitars to construct. Many would say this was part of Leo Fender's genius. And this applies to the paint as well. IMHO. Cheers.

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I must agree. In my old age I'm starting to develop an appreciation for Fender guitars' date=' but, with their modular electronics-on-pickguard construction (the Strats) and bolt-on necks, they ARE simpler guitars to construct. Many would say this was part of Leo Fender's genius. And this applies to the paint as well. IMHO. Cheers.[/quote']

 

I'm not talking about the construction of fender guitars... they are much simpler... agreed...

 

I'm talking 'bout (my generation, haha) the finishes on Fenders.... For example the sunburst finish on a Telecaster is much nicer contoured around the body...

I must say a Tele has a much smaller body than a Semi-Hollow epiphone and that they needn't use/waste as much paint on it...

All I want is for epiphone to do the same thing with their guitars.... Do the same nice finishes (contour-wise, going up to the horns as nicely as on the Peerless Casinos for example or the John Lennon Sig..) on cheap-er guitars as on on expensive guitars...

 

PS: Did you notice that the new Casino Sunburst finishes don't have any red in them? I the finish so much cheaper when no red is used between the black and the amber??

 

JM

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John,

 

To a great extent, comparing Fenders and Epiphones is comparing apples and oranges. Try comparing Squiers and Epiphones.

 

I recently picked up a Mexican Strat myself, and I got one of the sunburst ones. Even in the newer Fenders, in the affordable ones at least, the sunburst has gone to two colors and they charge extra for it. Sunbursts require more attention and manual intervention, hence they cost more. This is, undoubtedly, why Epiphone has dropped sunbursts from some of their hollowbodies (and from virtually all of their Elitists before they finally killed them). And when you do a sunburst, it's easier and quicker to do a teardrop.

 

All that being said, I agree with you. I, too, like the lighter color to go up into the upper bout. You can probably get the sunburst you want by shopping around, or by buying the more expensive Gibsons. Cheers.

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I have owned a Japanese Strat (50th Anniversary '62 Reissue) and a Mexican Strat. Both were finished in a nice 3 color sunburst. I believe that the '50's American Strats had only 2 colors in the sunburst but changed to 3 colors in the '60's.

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John' date='

 

To a great extent, comparing Fenders and Epiphones is comparing apples and oranges. Try comparing Squiers and Epiphones.

 

I recently picked up a Mexican Strat myself, and I got one of the sunburst ones. Even in the newer Fenders, in the affordable ones at least, the sunburst has gone to two colors and they charge extra for it. Sunbursts require more attention and manual intervention, hence they cost more. This is, undoubtedly, why Epiphone has dropped sunbursts from some of their hollowbodies (and from virtually all of their Elitists before they finally killed them). And when you do a sunburst, it's easier and quicker to do a teardrop.

 

All that being said, I agree with you. I, too, like the lighter color to go up into the upper bout. You can probably get the sunburst you want by shopping around, or by buying the more expensive Gibsons. Cheers.[/quote']

 

Price-wise comparing Fender Mexiacans with Epiphones insn't that far fetched... Also, Epiphones are very much overpriced already so why the hell shouldn't they make an effort in making a nice sunburst??? It's one of Epiphone's trademarks!!!!!!!!!! By cheapening that process and making the finishes look cheap and ugly they're just damaging their own image and people like us, customers who won't be fooled by cheap marketing shemes are turned off by them...

 

 

I'd rather they'd charge a buck or two more and make a decent sunburst finish instead of ****... Saves them and our eyes much trouble...

 

JM

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