mkingsle Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Just wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of guitar this is, it's a 1967 ES model i'm pretty sure. Its a rounded neck with 2 knobs and has like a mahogany type finish on it, like either a 125 or a 150. I will put a picture in my profile picture if you can tell from that. Thanks for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 OK, so where is the pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkingsle Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hopefully you can get a clear enough view from my profile picture. Thanks for any help offered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hopefully you can get a clear enough view from my profile picture. Thanks for any help offered! The picture is not enough for a definite identification, but based on the body shape and the dot inlays, I'll guess an ES-125. The ES-150 at times had trapezoid inlays, but not always, so there is not enough here yet to go on for sure. Can you measure the body across the widest part of the lower bout (the "hips," so to speak)? The ES-125 is typically 16-1/4" across. If your guitar is wider, it MIGHT be an ES-150. We also could use a count of the number of frets, the depth of the body, and a description of the peghead and its logo style. In addition, could you tell us why you think it is a '67? If you know it's a '67, then it can't be an ES-150 because they stopped making those in 1956. Bigger and better pictures will help a lot. Ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkingsle Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 The reason I believe it is a '67 is because it belonged to my mother, and that is when she said she purchased it. Therefore, you are right - it could be older, just purchased later possibly? The measure of the body is approx. 16 1/4" like you said as I measured near the bottom of the base. There are 20 frets, and the peghead has a standard Gibson logo at the very top of it with 6 white pegheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey again, mkingsle-- The information you've included proves most helpful to me. With twenty frets, that places an ES-125 post 1955 (before that, they only had 19 frets). The ES-150 requires a 17" lower bout so your body size rules out an ES-150 (the ES-150 did have a smaller body like the ES-125 before 1946, but at that time, the 150s did not have a P-90 pickup as does your guitar). Your white plastic tuning buttons also are classic signs of an ES-125 because the ES-150 often has the more typical cream-colored tulip style tuners. I am assuming that when you say "standard Gibson logo," you mean the current Gibson logo silk-screened in gold ink onto the peghead under the finish and not an inlaid logo. So, with the information above, I think we can rule for sure that you have a post-1955 ES-125. We would need a serial number and the depth of the guitar to get any further in the dating: is the guitar fulldepth like an acoustic, or is it a thinline closer in size to a 335? I won't be surprised if you can't find a serial number; they were ink-stamped in the body of the ES-125s and often have faded over time. It is safe to assume, though, that you have an ES-125 made some time between 1955 and 1967. So, how does it play? My ES-125 is my main guitar--and my only electric. I really like it a lot, and I find it also great fun to play acoustically. It does acoustic blues very well. Ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Ignatius, looks like he has hit it from what I can see and, particularly, the info. You owe him a beer! Steve HG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Just wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of guitar this is' date=' it's a 1967 ES model i'm pretty sure. Its a rounded neck with 2 knobs and has like a mahogany type finish on it, like either a 125 or a 150. I will put a picture in my profile picture if you can tell from that. Thanks for any help![/quote'] Inside the bass side f-hole the model will be stamped with dark blue ink. Inside the treble side f-hole you will find a FON (factory order number - if the guitar is older than 1961). If the FON begins with a V it's a 56, U=57, T=58, S=59, R=60 and Q=61 (after 1961 the FON diasapperared and the years of manufacture can be read out the serial number. Gibson ES-125T, ES-125TD ES-125TC, ES-125TCD Thinline Fully Hollow Electric Archtops. Available: 1956 to 1970 1956 Gibson ES-125T specs: Thinline version of ES-125, 16 1/4" wide, P-90 pickup with "dog ears" in neck position, tortoise grain pickguard, trapeze tailpiece, single bound top and back, dot fingerboard inlays, gold decal logo, sunburst finish. 1957 Gibson ES-125TD specs: Two pickup version of ES-125T. 1960 Gibson ES-125TC, ES-125TCD: Pointed cutaway version of ES-125T, cherry sunburst finish. ES-125TC has one pickup, ES-125TCD has two pickups (the "D" means dual pickups, the "T" means thinline, and the "C" means cutaway). The ES-125TDC is the guitar George Thorogood made famous. Gibson ES-125TD discontinued 1964. ES-125T, ES-125TC, ES-125TCD discontinued 1970. The blue text is yours. Get a good light source and check inside the treble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Troels-- Your deduction is good only if the guitar is a thinline, but the original poster has not said that. In fact, given that he was trying to decide whether the guitar was an ES-125 or an ES-150, I am assuming the body is full-depth because (to the best of my knowledge) the ES-150 never came in a thinline version. So we need more info to decide it is an ES-125T, and without that, we probably have to assume it is an ES-125 (these were also manufactured until 1970). In addition, the blue ink in the body often fades over time and with exposure to sun. My ES-125 lost its internal numbering decades ago as far as I can tell. Ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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