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pohatu771

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Well you know people think about things too much. One guy is happy because he got the guitar of my dreams for $300 and the other geezer is pleased because he saved a few bob on his windows. ignorance is bliss. We'll all be dead in less than a hundred years.
Don't make assumptions... I intend to live forever.
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animalfarm

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Haven't seen this much commentary in such a short time in a while. When I joined

forum, I remember a post that someone had gone back and edited everything out,

and the only thing left was a single period (.) as the title - no commentary, nothing!

That set off a great line of commentary of viewpoints as to the MEANING of " . ", and

was it a profound statement or not. (Ramble Ramble...)

 

Of course, now we're waiting for pix, then more morality debates.

 

Can anyone photoshop a picture of Zakk W. into this thing?

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JohnMcClane5000

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Wow' date=' congratulations, you really found yourself a sucker didn't you?

 

I don't suppose you've heard of Karma, but essentially it means "What goes around comes around".

 

If there is any truth in this principle, you just might not want to get too excited about taking advantage of someone's ignorance.

 

But then again, a person who has to make his living by selling windows to senior citizens may already be experiencing the adverse effects of cosmic justice...

 

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Ignorance? I don't think so. Who says that a 40 year old guitar is that valuable? At the end of the day it's just some pieces of wood glued together... Some find it not that spectacular others cannot put in words how much it means to them. And also. This guy didn't even have a clue himself that he'd found the treasure! If your dad gives you a 1955 Cadillac as a present you pay him off? No, just jump in and drive off without any bad thoughts but as soon as someone finds something he doesn't even care for anymore and wants to get rid of it it's 'bad karma'?

Stop being such a greedy idiot! Just because some people say that this thing is valuable it doesn't mean it really is. But for the people who claim it to be it is. Karma Shmarma!

 

Congratulations man for your Guitar! Have fun with it and don't let yourself be fooled by people who would have done the same ******* thing as you. Use it and enjoy it!

 

If life gives you a lemon you make lemonade. If life gives you a 1966 Casino make the best sound you can! =P~/

 

JM

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Lord Summerisle

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don't let yourself be fooled by people who would have done the same ******* thing as you.

 

kindly refrain from those kind of assumptions....

 

Sorry folks, but I'm with AS90 on this one...Not that it really matters...at the end of the day, this is just a 'talking shop.'

 

The guitar looks beautiful in the photos the new owner posted.

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clarkuss

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I wans't a naysayer but I would have done the same. If he asked me what I would give him I probably would have offered something like £500 ($800) and worked up from there because I don't think anybody in their right mind would sell it for less but I've been proven wrong.

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SlagJones

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Wow, some really judgemental people on here. It seems to me if that being 77 doesn't always mean you have gone senile and if he is able to afford 20K+ windows, the guy must have a decent retirement account and I don't believe there was any intent to do any fleecing. I personally would not have known what value to put on the guitar but knowing what I know now, if that guy ever came back to me as a customer, I would definitely give him a great deal. What's done is done and some people get all the luck! Congrats on your good fortune and enjoy!!! You lucky bastard!!! ](*,)

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freak show

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Unbelievable! Almost 1000 hits. I’m happy to see that there’s a bit of interest in questions other than „Is my Epiphone a fake?“ and „Which Beatle would you like to kiss?“ LOL!

 

Well, I can’t say that I agree with everything I’ve read here, but, as our window salesman has sagely pointed out, truth has a subjective component, which must be taken into account, or to quote him directly:

 

 

as90' date=' opinions are like assholes everybody has one.[/quote']

 

 

That pretty much says it all. I guess „Anything goes“ and everything is allowed, since we obviously all have a rectum. Aristotle himself would have been unable to find fault in that sort of reasoning!

 

Another member asked what the „naysayers“, i.e. those who find it sleazy to take advantage of an old man, would have done. In my opinion a person should treat old people the way he would want others to treat his own grandparents.

 

The ramifications of this statement might seem pretty clear to you, but let’s not forget that some people would and do spit on their grandparents. Anything goes, we’ve all got a right to our rectum!

 

Not really. Fair is fair, and right is right. I wouldn’t want someone to take advantage of my grandparents, and for that reason I wouldn’t take advantage of your grandpa or anyone else's. Especially not for a lousy 3000 clams. What a joke!

 

And that’s really the bottom line here. Many of you think it’s so unbelievably lucky to find a guitar worth 3000 dollars. I agree, finding a nice instrument under a bed is a windfall. But the person who has the money and the decency to go back and give the guy a thousand (still only 33%!) is the person who is really „lucky“.

 

 

How lucky are you, Mr. Window?

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scantron

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Wow, we've really had a strong reaction to the term "naysayers"! By definition they were those opposed.

I was attempting to post from a neutral standpoint and I guess I should have chosen a better term for those who thought Motowntom took advantage of Casino's owner.

 

So what would you all have done in his place?

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JefferySmith

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We've gone beyond beating....err.....pinching a dead horse. Inasmuch as the buyer didn't tell the old geezer that the guitar was worth only $300, I see nothing to the transaction other than both sides being happy with the outcome (albeit, the old guy isn't probably asking anyone to pinch him).

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duane v

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So what would you all have done in his place?

 

If that situation arose today, I would have told that individual he or she has a $3000 guitar, and if they needed to sell it, I would help them sell it on Ebay or have them contact Gruhn Guitars.... However that doesn't make me a better person, I already have a JL Rev so there's no point in me getting the same guitar. But with that, I still would have told the individual what he or she had from a value stand-point..... I'm fortunate enough at this point in my life where I could have given the individual $2000 for his AXE, and still feel I received a great deal, if that was a guitar I really wanted.....

 

Now if I was a young guy let's say in the 1980's when I was rockin and a rollin, I wouldn't have given $50 for it, because Epiphones were looked at as inferior guitars, (at least in my circle).... We seeked only Gibson or Charvel guitars.:- ...

 

 

As for having to respect your elders regardless, well I think that's a load of crap. Respect is a two way street....

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SlagJones

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And that’s really the bottom line here. Many of you think it’s so unbelievably lucky to find a guitar worth 3000 dollars. I agree' date=' finding a nice instrument under a bed is a windfall. But the person who has the money and the decency to go back and give the guy a thousand (still only 33%!) is the person who is really „lucky“.

 

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I would agree that it would be pretty honorable to go back and offer to give the guy something.

My only contention is that I don't think there was ever any INTENT to fleece anyone. Remember it was the old guy who made the offer. Mr. Windows didn't go in saying hey I'll cut $300 and I'l take that crappy old guitar off your hands. If Mr. Windows did have intent then shame on him.

It is also quite possible the old man knew exactly what he was doing and wanted to be discreetly generous.

Not all grandpas are old senile, stupid and helpless as you seem to infer...

You don't know the total picture, there are a myriad of possibilities. You weren't there were you? Do you know what was going through the guy's mind when he decided to offer the guitar?

 

I guess you are the only one here allowed to cast the first stone...

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JefferySmith

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My aging major professor from grad school (who is at least 77) had a Leica M3 he bought back in the 1960's but never used (no meter, hard to load, etc.). A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He was happy to do so but told me that it was probably worthless because of its age. Actually, an unused Leica M3 is kind of like an unused Gibson ES-335 from the 60's as a collector's item. Not wishing to screw the man, I did some ebay research on how much a mint M3 was going for, and offered him $2,000 (it did have fungus in it from sitting in an enclosed drawer for 45 years). That was how much very good condition M3's were going for at the time. He was delighted (he was thinking more like $100). The difference here was that I had an enormous amount of respect for this man, and valued him more as a friend than I valued the camera as a collector's item. As odd as it may seem, I think this is a different scenario than the one here. If someone agrees to a trade of $300 for the Casino, that's his choice. It would have been a nice gesture to tell the old gent that the Casino was worth 10X that amount, but people don't get rich doing the right thing. That, unfortunately, is something that goes along with capitalism. I think the Russians define capitalism as "someone getting rich at the expense of lesser, unfortunate people" or something like that.

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Lord Summerisle

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... but people don't get rich doing the right thing. That' date=' unfortunately, is something that goes along with capitalism. [/quote']

 

Perhaps it can be done. I'd like to think so. Maybe it depends upon how one defines "rich." Didn't a famous Irish playwright once say something about cynics, the price of everything, and the value of nothing?

 

I liked your Leica story. I had no idea they were so valuable, although I know Leicas are superior cameras. I have an old Voightlander in amazing condition which belonged to my Dad. He bought it in the '50s when he first got into photography. Perhaps it's worth more than I thought (not that I'd ever sell it).

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