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Is Epiphone discontinuing their Elitist Series? I gathered as much from looking over some threads discussing the Casino. I may have misinterpreted it however.

 

 

I think the proper tense would be discontinued. All that remains is the Casino and they no longer have a special section on their web site for Elitist guitars.

 

All I can say is that I'm glad I got mine while I could. This one was one of the first to be discontinued:

 

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I own 9 elitists and am damn glad for it. I've got to say after I bought my first one & looked it over I thought "I better get as many of these as I want real quick. There's no way Gibson can keep selling these without 'embarrassing' their Gibson line". And sure enough, that was the case. They did next-to-no marketing for them. Heck, you had to be almost a 'guitar insider' to even know about them & even then it was real unlikely you'd ever see one in a music store.

 

I've noticed since they've been discontinued you hardly ever even see one on Ebay. Before, when they were still being sold, you'd see maybe a half-dozen or so of them there but not anymore. Those that own them are holding on to them- for good reason.

 

To me, they are every bit the equal to their Gibby counterparts. Like the old ads used to say "everything but the name". Fantastic guitars.

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I am glad to hear that at least they are keeping the Casino's. A local dealer told me here that he did not even expect to get any more Casino's. He said that Gibson was reconsidering the whole line and that the Epiphone China series were selling much better and something that it was too close to Gibson custom shop quality. It sounded a bit inconsistent to me except for the fact he is a major Gibson and Epiphone dealer.

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I am glad to hear that at least they are keeping the Casino's. A local dealer told me here that he did not even expect to get any more Casino's. He said that Gibson was reconsidering the whole line and that the Epiphone China series were selling much better and something that it was too close to Gibson custom shop quality. It sounded a bit inconsistent to me except for the fact he is a major Gibson and Epiphone dealer.

I heard all kinds of poppycock regarding the Elitists when asking local Gibson/Epi dealers in my area... basically they just didn't want to deal with them.

 

I've said it before; working in a local music store' date=' I found that these guitars were a hard sell. Only people that have taken the time to evaluate the facts and perhaps try one or two out can appreciate these guitars. Other than that, the attitude is always that a Gibson is better than an Epiphone, [b']no matter what[/b]. So for the same amount of money, the majority of buyers would prefer a Gibson SG Special Faded with a gigbag to an Elitist '61 SG Reissue with a hard case. Likewise for the Gibson LP Studio versus the Elitist LP Standard Plus. In the end run we only ever managed to sell four Elitists; I bought three myself and the other one went to a forum member in Sarnia who was having problems with attitude from his local dealer.

 

I own both the Gibson and the Elitist '61 SGs and the workmanship on the Elitist is better than the Gibson. It also plays nicer since the polyurethane finish on the neck doesn't get 'sticky' the way the lacquer finish on the Gibson does; it's like glass. About the only real advantage the Gibson has is in its '57 Classic pickups which IMO are nicer than the Elitist pickups, supposedly based on the 490R/498T. I've also checked out the Gibson SG Special Faded and I wouldn't trade my Elitist for two of them.

 

Which is which?

 

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I heard all kinds of poppycock regarding the Elitists when asking local Gibson/Epi dealers in my area... basically they just didn't want to deal with them.

 

I've said it before; working in a local music store' date=' I found that these guitars were a hard sell. Only people that have taken the time to evaluate the facts and perhaps try one or two out can appreciate these guitars. Other than that, the attitude is always that a Gibson is better than an Epiphone, [b']no matter what[/b]. So for the same amount of money, the majority of buyers would prefer a Gibson SG Special Faded with a gigbag to an Elitist '61 SG Reissue with a hard case. Likewise for the Gibson LP Studio versus the Elitist LP Standard Plus. In the end run we only ever managed to sell four Elitists; I bought three myself and the other one went to a forum member in Sarnia who was having problems with attitude from his local dealer.

 

I own both the Gibson and the Elitist '61 SGs and the workmanship on the Elitist is better than the Gibson. It also plays nicer since the polyurethane finish on the neck doesn't get 'sticky' the way the lacquer finish on the Gibson does; it's like glass. About the only real advantage the Gibson has is in its '57 Classic pickups which IMO are nicer than the Elitist pickups, supposedly based on the 490R/498T. I've also checked out the Gibson SG Special Faded and I wouldn't trade my Elitist for two of them.

 

Which is which?

 

SG61x2

 

Damn...If you couldn't see the headstocks in the photo you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

 

 

mgm

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House of Guitars has an Elitist Casino on a shelf... I'm very tempted to put some money down on it after I pay off the Melody Maker, but I know that it will take a while to raise the funds... and when I have the funds, a guitar is not where they should be going.

 

With how nice my Casino is, though, I almost feel like I should see if they have an Elitist Dot or Sheraton... Other than the electronics, I can't imagine any other Casino being better than mine.

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Spud, is that a "seam" at the bottom of the bridge pickup, on the Gibson, or just an odd wood grain configuration???

Looks to be two pieces joined together (different colors, even). Although, I've never really seen a Gibson with a seam

in that manner, before. But, I haven't seen every Gibson, either. ;>b LOL!

 

CB

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With how nice my Casino is' date=' though, I almost feel like I should see if they have an Elitist Dot or Sheraton... Other than the electronics, I can't imagine any other Casino being better than mine.[/quote']

 

What did you do to your Casino to make it stand up to an Elitist?

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What did you do to your Casino to make it stand up to an Elitist?

I didn't do anything to it... I'm just quite fond of it. The Elitist could very well be a much better guitar, but in my ignorance, I'm quite happy with what I have, other than the pots which have gotten scratchy.
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I didn't do anything to it... I'm just quite fond of it. The Elitist could very well be a much better guitar' date=' but in my ignorance, I'm quite happy with what I have, other than the pots which have gotten scratchy.[/quote']

 

I hear you. I did do a crapload of modding to mine and I would puit it up against an Elitist. Of course, this comment could start a war. It has in the past. But I loves my Peerless. One of the best guitars I own regardless.

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Spud' date=' is that a "seam" at the bottom of the bridge pickup, on the Gibson, or just an odd wood grain configuration???

Looks to be two pieces joined together (different colors, even). Although, I've never really seen a Gibson with a seam

in that manner, before. But, I haven't seen every Gibson, either. ;>b LOL!

 

CB[/quote']

It's a demarcation in the wood grain. I myself didn't notice it until I looked at that pic.

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I hear you. I did do a crapload of modding to mine and I would puit it up against an Elitist. Of course' date=' this comment could start a war. It has in the past. But I loves my Peerless. One of the best guitars I own regardless. [/quote']

Definitely not trying to start a war here, especially since (a) I've never tried an Elitist Casino and (:- I understand that the Peerless Epis are among the very best.

 

That being said, all I can add is that when it comes to the solid body guitars, the Elitists are light years ahead of the regular Epis... and having owned both the Dot and the Elitist ES-335 my experience is that the Elitist semi-solid archtops are equally superior. To give you an idea, my Dot was no slouch, with Gibson pickups and lots of cosmetic upgrades but the moment I took the Elitist in my hands, that is, the moment I held it, never mind actually playing it, I had to have one, I was so blown away. It also held its own up against a Gibson Faded 335 we had hanging in the store for a while, and blew it away in the looks department.

 

But like I said I've never A/B'd the Casinos.

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I hear you. I did do a crapload of modding to mine and I would puit it up against an Elitist. Of course' date=' this comment could start a war. It has in the past. But I loves my Peerless. One of the best guitars I own regardless. [/quote']

 

It has been done before. Bob here has a Peerless and a Gibson 330 also and has stated time and again his opinions. Bob?

 

I did the comparison myself with my burst MIK Casino, an Elitist and a Lennon. While both Elitist and Lennon's felt more solid and a bit better put together, better wood etc. there was not enough difference to make me want to upgrade.

 

If the Casino was to be one of the only electrics in my collection I would buy the Elitist version. As it is the Casino is one of many electrics and not my main guitar, I like SGs and 335s better so I am happy with my MIK Casino also.

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