FrankS1281734010 Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 whoa, it's been a few months since i've posted anything in here. i kinda missed it here, heh. but anyways, i was shopping around for a new amp head and thought of something when looking at hybrids. if i plugged into one of those valvetronix amps (or a similar hybrid with a tube preamp) and then took the fx send and ran that into the fx return of another hybrid with a tube power amp (like the marshall artist series) i would, in theory, have an all-tube setup, right? or would i just blow everything up and look like an idiot? i would assume both need to be plugged into the same cab, or at least have a dummy load on the first amp. i don't know. nothing i'd ever try, it was just an idea i had. would it work?
m-theory Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Call me silly, but it seems to me that it'd be a whole lot easier to just get a tube amp, if you want a tube amp.
FrankS1281734010 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 oh i know, i was just wondering if this type of thing would work hypothetically.
K.E.B.1281734147 Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Call me silly' date=' but it seems to me that it'd be a whole lot easier to just get a tube amp, if you want a tube amp. [/quote']+1
bluesman345 Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 IMHO, and for my purposes, my Valvetronix is the best sounding and most versatile amp I have owned in the past 40 years. Although I have some concerns regarding build quality (as with any amp at that price point), I get the tone I want and I am happy.
Dave Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 The Vox Valvetronix AD100VT is the only one of the AD models that has an FX loop. MY AD50VT doesn't have it, only an external speaker jack. The tone of the Valvetronix pretty much stands on its own. IMHO, it's one of the best modelers.
JesusOfSuburbia Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Fender Cyber-Twin 100% : More amp models, more effects parameters, effects loop, external speaker out, THE BEST direct out (low impedence) I've ever heard on any amp, expression pedal out, midi control, wheels/casters and lastly, THE KNOBS MOVE!!! Which is great for on the fly referance and tone tweaking...
Eracer_Team Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 going from a tube pre-amp section out the fx to a tube output section of another amp probably would not give you a 'pure' tube tone. I would imagine that the SS amps would have buffer chips, etc to also include their digital sound effects, etc. Like the others stated,, why use 2 amps to get tube tone.
JesusOfSuburbia Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Like the others stated' date=', why use 2 amps to get tube tone.[/quote'] +1 on just getting an all tube amp dude, I love my Cyber Twin but that's why I got the So Cal 50 and I'm very happy!!!
Dave Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Exactly why I bought the Peavey Vypyr Tube 60. It has a DSP section feeding a tube preamp and output stage. I just got the schematic yesterday in PDF form and it shows the two halves of the 12ax7 used as two stages of the preamp and the output stage is a standard dual 6L6 circuit with 395v plate voltage producing 60 watts. You have to like the effects section of such an amp to be happy with the overall amp, but luckily, I am happy with the overall package. It's analogous to feeding a chain of stompboxes and analog effects into a simple tube amp. The effects and stompbox emulations in the Peavey are mostly SS analog with some being totally digital, such as the ring modulator and octaver.
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