jalexquijano Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Anyone has experienced the tone of a casino with corian nut and nylon saddles? where can I purchase these parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Comes ready equipped with a Gibson ABR-1 bridge. You're all set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Warmoth has Corian nut blanks: http://www.warmoth.com/Nut-Blanks-C838.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelh Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 This seems to be the 4th ! This guy does the same thing at another forum. I don't think he understands yet that he can respond within the same post. Come to think of it he never responds, just starts new theads. Lucky he hasn't gone to the other forums here asking the same thing...like he does elsewhere. That is if it's the same guy..although I don't think to many guitar players with Epis named quijano from Panama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalexquijano Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Rafael, nobody is giving me a straight answer. I bought an epiphone Casino made in China 2 years ago and I want to upgrade the bridge because the saddles are rusted and are worn out. My queries are the following: 1. Where can i get an exact replacement bridge with nylon saddles for this guitar, if not where can i purchase the nylon saddles for the stock bridge? 2. WHere can I purchase a corian nut for this guitar? Please advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Do you want to buy online? Do you have a local guitar shop? My local shop can pretty much order in anything I need. I just go in and ask them. Take your guitar along with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Rafael' date=' nobody is giving me a straight answer. I bought an epiphone Casino made in China 2 years ago and I want to upgrade the bridge because the saddles are rusted and are worn out. My queries are the following: 1. Where can i get an exact replacement bridge with nylon saddles for this guitar, if not where can i purchase the nylon saddles for the stock bridge? 2. WHere can I purchase a corian nut for this guitar? Please advise.[/quote'] Check out the Stewart Macdonald site 1. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_Tune-o-matic_parts/String_Saver_Tune-o-matic_Saddles.html 2. I'd use a Slipstone (assuming you want to keep the white colour) http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Nuts,_saddles/String_nuts.html Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hardly anyone wants Corian nuts and nylon saddles on electric guitars these days. With the exception of Lennon Casinos, those parts are not used. Bone and tusq are the modern choices for high-quality nut replacement and steel or polymer for saddles. The Elitist Casinos have a bone nut. I doubt you'll find pre-slotted Corian anywhere. I gave you a source for blanks. If you have to have Corian give one to a luthier for him to install and cut. I'd much rather have a bone nut on my Casino...and I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hardly anyone wants Corian nuts and nylon saddles on electric guitars these days. With the exception of Lennon Casinos' date=' those parts are not used. [/quote'] Hmmmm..... Modding a Casino with a replacement ABR bridge, nylon saddles and Corian nut...do you think a black washer may be the next thing on the shopping list? Perhaps jalexquijano is modding a modern-day Casino to make a Lennon 'copy.' If so, fair enough, (I think other people here have done the same thing?) Might be hard to overcome the difference in the headstock angle however... I read bad things about Corian nuts over at the Telecaster forum. Apparently the Tele Twangers have discovered it shatters into 100 pieces very easily... So +1 on bone nuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I agree with you about the Bone Nut. There's one thing about modding things to replicate certian models, artists, styles... and another deliberately making a guitar worse off. I don't think I've ever heard anyone recommend a corian nut. +1 for bone nut here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redddog Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 What's the difference in the headstock angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 What's the difference in the headstock angle? Well...as a Reference Librarian by profession I'm supposed to hate all things Wikipedia...but I think this extract from their entry for "Epiphone Casino" is quite accurate, and has been written by a knowledgeable person...(probably one of our forum members!) "Early versions of the Casino had a spruce top. Through 1970, the Casino headstock was set at a 17-degree angle and the top was made of five laminated layers of maple, birch, maple, birch, and maple. With the exception of the John Lennon models, subsequent Casinos have been made with 14-degree headstock angle with five layer all maple laminated tops. Current versions have a laminated maple top, sides, and back, and a mahogany neck." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphone_Casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The Lennon model is 17 isn't it? But if in 1970 it was set at 17 that would presuppose it varied in the 60s. Does anybody know what years had what headstock angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The Lennon model is 17 isn't it? But if in 1970 it was set at 17 that would presuppose it varied in the 60s. Does anybody know what years had what headstock angle? I think it's just an ambiguous piece of phraseology. It's my understanding that Casinos had a 17 degree angled headstock up to the year 1970. Thereafter the angle changed when production resumed in Japan (and subsequently Korea and China). You see..it's Wikipedia's fault! You never get these errant pieces of writing in Encyclopedia Britannica or Encyclopedia Americana (although good luck finding an entry for Epiphones in either of those publications...) To be fair to the Wikipedia author' date=' however, the use of the word "through" in American English (in this context) can be roughly translated into British English as "up to and including." Hence, up to and including the year 1970, the headstock of the Casino was fabricated (or "set") at a 17 degree angle...(to be [i']incredibly[/i] pedantic - sorry...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Ah that makes a lot more sense. I would never have deciphered that. I suppose the only Casinos made in 1970 were the 79 ones so that makes sense now. Oh, and we wouldn't use fabricated in that sense... much too antiquated. Hence: Up until the year of our lord nineteen hundred and seventy, whence the discontinuation of such a productional service of the aforementioned guitar, the headstock of the Casino was rather delicately furnished at a generously established 17 degree angle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g61201281734168 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Comes ready equipped with a Gibson ABR-1 bridge. You're all set! By the looks of that ES 330 L I cant help but think if the bridge pickup being that close to the neck well it has to effect the tone . Maybe not as warm or have the mid range that the former ES 330 is known for and the casino has it pickups more in line with the vintage platform . Ive been looking over the current ES 330L myself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I'd have though that the closer to the neck the warmer the tone? I find the bridge pickup a lot brighter and trebly than the neck. I don't like the long version though.... My best friend's dad has a late 60s ES-330 in Tobacco sunburst and it is in 10/10 collector's condition apart from a slight touch up job it had on the headstock to repair a small knock it took a few years ago. He likes playing the eagles and the shadows on it. His name is Jeff. I wouldn't mind a 330 myself but I don't think I'd get the long neck version, especially now that PuP spacing has been brought to my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g61201281734168 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Ive been eyeballing that guitar for a bit of time and as you not certain if I feel comfortable by the placement of that pickup where its located so I decided to get a casino which has a sweet sound . Love the sound of p90 pickups always have - I have a 50th anniversary gibson sunburst es 335 with a fat neck and a 60 Les Paul and I would love to get a es 330 at some point but .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I think it's just an ambiguous piece of phraseology. It's my understanding that Casinos had a 17 degree angled headstock up to the year 1970. Thereafter the angle changed when production resumed in Japan (and subsequently Korea and China). I don't think that's accurate. Gibson changed the headstock pitch from 17 degrees to 14 degress on all electrics in 1966, which means Casinos made in the US from 1966 to 1969 should also have that headtsock angle (unless of course, Gibson did not change the angle on Epiphone guitars. Where is Uncle Al/Iconoclast/Mr. Greg/Gregzy/Harry Houdini/nelson, etc. when you need him?). Gibson changed the headstock angle from 17 to 14 degrees in order to strengthen the neck behind the truss rod adjustment cavity. The 14 degree angle adds more wood. They would also use a volute (an extra protusion of wood) in the same area from '69 to '81. Gibson returned to the original 17 degree headstock angle in 1973. Why is the angle important? In theory, more downward force is exerted on the string at the nut when the headstock angle is steeper. Guitars with a 17 degree headstock are said by many to have better tone and sustain. Asian Epiphones almost always have a 14 degree headstock angle. The exceptions are special historic models, like the Lennon Casinos, McCartney Texan, and (I think) the John Lee Hooker Sheraton, which are built to vintage specs. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Does this make the guitar more likely to break at the neck? Because I've seen a hell of a lot of lennon casinos snap at the neck but not many asian ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrmatt Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Is the p/u and bridge placement on a 330L the same as a regular 330? mgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Ive been eyeballing that guitar for a bit of time and as you not certain if I feel comfortable by the placement of that pickup where its located so I decided to get a casino which has a sweet sound . Ah... A flimsy excuse to post a photo of Brian Jones with his Gibson ES-330. You can almost hear Bill Wyman in the background thinking' date=' "Sh*t, [i']now[/i] what's he been taking..?" As a point of interest, is it just me or is that neck pick-up quite a long way forward on Jones' '60s ES-330 also...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Does this make the guitar more likely to break at the neck? Because I've seen a hell of a lot of lennon casinos snap at the neck but not many asian ones. There's a bit less wood there, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I just read "Who Killed Christopher Robin" by Terry Rawlings. So tragic and depressing reading about Brian Jones' life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I just read "Who Killed Christopher Robin" by Terry Rawlings. So tragic and depressing reading about Brian Jones' life. An amazing musician. However, as Keith Richards once remarked when musing about Brian's life: "Not everyone makes it to 70." True enough, but to not even make it to 30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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