mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Which is the best celestion speaker for rock in your opinion. Looking to buils a 2X12 Cab or maybe a 4X12 and want to put the top of the range speaker in. Its only to run a 15 watt orange tiny terror when i get it so prob 2x12. I hear the Vintage30's are good and green backs? or maybe G12T 75? Im lost as so many to choose from. The max output i would need is enough to run my 65watt laney hybrid amp. Think id prefer 2x12. Any help would be great. Marshall cabs are exspensive as id buy one if i could but still wouldnt know which one either! 2x12 1936 cabs are good apparently, Now orange cabs are suppose to be great to but they cost a fortune!!! Cheers Also one question, with say the marshall 1936 it has a mono input and a stereo input. one 8ohm and one 16ohms. Im guessing here but if i wanted to run the cab using both speakers (stereo) i just plug into the 16 ohm socket? from my 16ohm output on amp.? Someone said to me you have to run to cables to the cab to run in stereo? Now confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apdale Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I've got a 2x12 cab with Vintage 30s and I really like the sound I get out of it. Not sure they're the best, haven't tried any other Celestions but they're a lot better than the other speakers I've had in the past. Most amps (especially tube amps) don't run stereo. To run stereo you would most likely need two amps, switch the cab to stereo and plug in one amp to each of the two inputs on the cabinet. The stereo/mono switch essentially isolates the two speakers (in a 2x12) and treats them as separate 1x12 cabinets that you can hook up different amps to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 OK cheers for that, im looking to get the orange tiny terror and that has 2 8 ohm outputs and 1 16ohm output. You think this amp head is suitable for a 2x12 with stereo output? Im looking to run both 2x12's in the cabinet not just one as ive got a 1x12 already in combo form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Would you run 2 8ohms from amp into the marshall cab which has 8ohm mono 16ohm stereo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hey sorry im confused. I was told by someone that if i wanted to use a 2x12 and have both speakers working then id need to have 2 cables from amp to the cab (One cable one speaker) thats why i asumed the cab says 16ohm stereo so you run 2 8ohm outputs from your amp. I got told this so never thought any different. So when i get this amp if i plug the 16ohm output from the amp into the stereo input on the cab (16ohms) it will work in full? Have seen a cheap one on ebay at the minute and its local so migh check it out. Cheers for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Oh ok get it. :) Also are celestion vintage 30's 60 watts each? I guess the G12T75 are 75 watts each. Like i said may still be looking for an upgrade for my laney amp which is 65Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Bit of a bumber as people seem to rate the V30's over the G12T75's and i need 65 watts for the laney at max :) Might look at the 75? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Jimi used green backs in his cab's and they're rated at 25watts each. As you add speakers in a cabinet (either series or parallel) you add up the wattages.. So two 65w speakers make a 130w cab. four 25w green backs make a 100w cab.. so what's the problem? http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/2x12wiring.html http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/4x12wiring.html http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-theory Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The "best" Celestion these days isn't really a Celestion. It's a Scumback. I personally don't care for the Vintage 30s. They can be thin and harsh, imo. A G12H is a MUCH warmer speaker, for whatever that's worth to you. You might also consider some Weber offerings, as Ted makes great speaks. I've got a pair of 50w Ceramic Blues in a 2x12 cabinet, and it sounds gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-theory Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Wait, that reminds me...the Celestion Blue is a pretty crazy amazing speaker. VERY pricey, and VERY efficient, with a paltry 15 watt handling capability, but they are truly a work of sonic art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Jimi used green backs in his cab's and they're rated at 25watts each.As you add speakers in a cabinet (either series or parallel) you add up the wattages.. So two 65w speakers make a 130w cab. four 25w green backs make a 100w cab.. so what's the problem? http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/2x12wiring.html http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/4x12wiring.html http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm No problem mate the bumber is the fact if i wanted to replace the speaker in my laney amp which is a 1x12. I need 65 watt handling inside that combo and the Vintage 30 only gives 60 watt. Not a real big issue as i never run it that loud just saying. Anyone like greenbacks? Ive actually read much more better reviews on the G12T75 speaker now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 although you're on the other side of the pound.. email these guys to see if they have any distributor over there. http://warehousespeakers.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I want my speaker to be for classic 80's sounding rock The G12T75 apparently lacks mids and has lots of highs. What sort of speaker will i need for the 80's sound? Speaking guns and roses, van halen bon jovi ect.? Do i want one with low mids or lots of mids? Loads of treble or not? Really confused now. Will be going in an open back combo Slash use a Vintage 30 when with guns apparently and halen used green backs? Dont wanna get wrong one then try to return it Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I have a Vox Valvetronix AD50VT2-12, which is a 50 watt SS modelling amp incorporating a 12AX7 tube. With the "thumbs up" from my tech, I replaced the stock "Vox" speakers with 2 - 100 watt Celestion G12T "Hot 100" speakers. The "Hot 100's" are particularly suited for "hybrid" amps and really pump out the bass. I think that rather than the speakers being "underpowered" by the 50 watt amp, they provide lots of clean headroom. This is important for a modelling amp because you want very little coloration from the speakers, so the the sound can be as true to the desired sound as possible. Otherwise, people often look for certain speakers to contribute a unique and identifiable tone of their own. You can never go wrong with putting a higher wattage speaker into a lower wattage amp - you gain much more clean headroom. On the other hand, running a speaker that is much lower wattage than the amp can easily result in a burnt-out voice coil, or worse. I suggest clicking on http://www.celestion.com/ to see the full line of Celestion speakers. They even have an EVH model. Cheers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milospilo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Just as a quick note. Celestions vintage 30s are about 80 quid a pop in blighty at the moment and you can get a vintage loaded 2x12 from Thomann for £160. A mate of mine just got one and it sounds awesome for ROCK. Worth a look, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ok thanks mate. Got a few bits i wanna do over the next few months so have to see how money works out but that sounds like a good price! Things to do, Upgrade my 1x12 combo speaker or buy a 2x12 cab. £65-£300 Change pickup in my Gibson BFG for a SD Alnico Pro2. £65 Buy my Orange tiny terror. £300. Lock floating floyd rose so it only does dive bombs and get fully setup. £25 Lots to do and some quite exspensive. The amp is first and if the Gibson pickup isnt right then will change that then the speaker then a cab and so on. Money Money Money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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