robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Got a new epi les paul standard, but the tuning is like ****. At it's best it stays tuned around 30 minutes. The tuners are giving a clicking sound all the time. I was wondering what sort of new tuners i should buy, and what sort of a new nut for the guitar. I really want my tuners to be like "Gibson looking" so i was wondering if Gotoh is a good alternative ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Probably not the tuners but binding at the nut slots. First, try some pencil lead (graphite) in the nut slots, which usually helps. Otherwise, the nut slots will need to be widened a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Actually , i brought the guitar back to the store and the store owner filed the nut,after that i put some graphite there,but it's still like before Is it something i do wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Actually ' date=' i brought the guitar back to the store and the store owner filed the nut,after that i put some graphite there,but it's still like before :( Is it something i do wrong ?[/quote']No it's not you obviously. If it were me that guitar would be exchanged for another given you have the receipt and time left to make the swap. It's just unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Oh damn it >< The time for being able to switch it for a new went out 2 days ago!! The music business in sweden really sucks.... Whats plan B for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Did you put new strings on it after getting it home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yes! I put on Ernie Ball regular slinkies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 That's what I use. How many wraps around the tuning post do you have, and are they stacked above one another like a coil of wire on a spool would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 I got a couple of wraps, i stretched the string to the tuning post above then cut the rest off, if you know what i mean because i really suck at explaining things. But i dont know if they are stacked above each other now when you mentioned it! But probably they aren't :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 If the strings are overlapping on the turns, they are still probably trying to seat themselves against one another and you are hearing them slip as you try and tune. Next set, try this: Attach the string at the bridge as you normally would, then take the other end and without threading it into the post hole, make three tight wraps one on top of the other and hold it securely. Use your other hand to thread the end of the string into the peg hole and start tightening. After tightening, snip of the end of the string at the peg hole. You may only get two wraps on the two lower bass strings, but that's enough for them. Stretch like you normally would and keep retuning until they all are stretched and seated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thanks a lot Michael!!! I'm really going to try these things tomorrow because i need to get some sleep first. It's in the middle of the night here right now haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 0134 isn't it? Late enough for me. Nighty nite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Robin, the string wrapping method shown in the Epi owner's manual is real solid. I had been playing over 30 years before discovering this method, which locks the string on the post. In case you don't have your manual, here it is: http://www.epiphone.com/images/EpiOwnrsManul.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I had the same problem when I bought my LP. That thing refused to stay in tune. Best thing I ever did was replace the nut and the tuning machines. I know I made the right decision since my tuning troubles have completely disappeared. I check the tuning every time I pick up the guitar and from day to day there may be slight adustments here and there, but nothing like I used to have. I used to have to retune after every song. Best thing I ever did for that LP! The "machines" I took off that guitar were junk.......................no two ways about it. They even rattled if you shok them. I replaced them with Gotoh's. You could feel the diference right away. Now that they are installed they are pretty stiff and stay put. Bone is a good choice for nut material. The take that thing to your luthier and have him dress those frets making sure they are flat from the first fret to the last. Then have them set up the action to your liking. I had my 1st fret filed down and the action is awesome. I've had several folks that normally turn their noses up at Epiphones comment quite favorably on how my guitar plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Oh damn it >< The time for being able to switch it for a new went out 2 days ago!! The music business in sweden really sucks.... Whats plan B for me ? 2 days ago? And you were there how long ago getting the shop owner to help remedy it and it still wasn't fixed? Plan B= Raise a Little Hell and get your new guitar. If you've been there and tried to have it fixed just try to talk to the owner with utmost respect and .. being nice always helps. Hope the guy isn't a prick, but it's at least worth a shot if you're unhappy with the performance of your guitar/ Plan C= contact Epiphone/Gibson to see what they might be able to do about fixing the tuning problem. Some Epiphones are problematic in tuning. My G-400 Custom was one. had to replace everything but the frets...... My LP on the other hand has the tightest Grovers ever made. Like they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintiba Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Thanks Ron, Hooligan and Gas very very much! Thank you guys for being so kind and helping me!! I'm taking all of these advices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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