taxman Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Damn, the only reason I was going to buy a faded G-400 was because they have the white binding on the neck while the gloss ones do not. But now I am learning that newer faded SGs do not come with the white binding at all. Is this true? Are all new Epiphone SGs now being made without the white neck binding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Yep, AFAIK. Perhaps if you find one from Unsung it'll still have the white binding, but the EE's don't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 AFAIK, the only Epiphone SG with white neck binding currently is the Prophecy ... it has a bound headstock as well. JIm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Damn, that really changes everything. That little touch of quality has been removed. Epi lost a sale here. It now looks like I am going to have to buy a used one. There really is no way to get a new one with the white binding? I have to search by factory now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 The G-400 Custom has neck and headstock binding, at least mine does (just over 6mnths old) and the Epi site still shows them as having the binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoop Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 As discussed in a lot of other threads, all G400s have a bound headstock, but not all of them are bound in white. Most are bound in dark, rosewood coloured wood. So it's not a "loss of quality" at all, it's a loss of aesthetics. My G400 has the dark binding and I don't feel like it's missing anything at all. In fact I'd go so far as to say that it's one of the most gorgeous guitars I've ever laid my hands on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 The only problem with the G400 Custom is that they only seem to come in that creme color and I think our pal, BeatleNut had his heart set on a faded ... or at least a cherry or brown color. I must admit to being a huge fan of neck binding on a guitar and that brown color Epi is using on the G400's, while indeed binding, just doesn't set of the neck the way the creme did. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 ..it's not a "loss of quality" at all' date=' it's a loss of aesthetics..[/quote']A loss of aesthetics, a loss of beauty, is a loss of quality. If we just wanted quality instruments based upon sound alone, then we would all be happy playing guitars that are spray painted black by a six year old. Be honest, we want a quality of aesthetics to go along with our quality of playing in all our guitars. BeatleNut had his heart set on a faded ... or at least a cherry Has to be that red with the white binding. SGs in my mind and heart must have that white binding and must be red. It's like buying a 12 string Rickenbacker or a Ferrari...must be red. I really just wanted to use the guitar as a beater. I was looking for a cheap guitar with humbuckers that I can really not be careful nor loving with. I have always loved the sound of the SG style guitar and I figured a cheaper Epi was the way to go. But now with no binding, I am thinking of saving up and just getting myself a genuine Gibson SG. I won't be beating on that one, but at least I'll get the aesthetics I want. In the meantime I'll be looking for used Epis with white binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 It's like buying a 12 string Rickenbacker...must be red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 You know the story behind McGuinn's Ric? He wanted one after seeing The Beatles A HARD DAYS NIGHT film. Unfortunately for McGuinn the film was in black and white. He had no way of knowing they are supposed to be red. He bought himself one - the wrong color - and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 beatlenut- I gotta G400. It needs a neck reset, but it has the neck binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 You know the story behind McGuinn's Ric? He wanted one after seeing The Beatles A HARD DAYS NIGHT film. Unfortunately for McGuinn the film was in black and white. He had no way of knowing they are supposed to be red. He bought himself one - the wrong color - and the rest is history. When George first saw the Byrds' date=' he could figure out why McGuinn sounded so much better than he did. He noticed McGuinn's didn't have any binding all around the front. So George got one without the binding, but it didn't help. It wasn't the binding, it was the color!!! Mapleglo 12s sound way better the Fireglo ones!!! [center'][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 The only problem with the G400 Custom is that they only seem to come in that creme color and I think our pal' date=' BeatleNut had his heart set on a faded ... or at least a cherry or brown color.[/quote']Mine is black, it may be different range of colours per region or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 When George first saw the Byrds' date=' he could figure out why McGuinn sounded so much better than he did. It wasn't the binding, it was the color!!! [/quote'] By the way, just a correction, McGuinn NEVER sounded better than George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpfan Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 You will have to get an older SG 400 if you want the creme neck binding. Mine is a 2004 and it has the cream binding on the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydots Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 There is a beauty in the trading/for sale section. Binding just like what you want..... Yes, it's a shameless plug as I own it, but take a look..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 It's not just beauty or quality -- it's function. A white binding makes it a lot easier to find the fret markers on a dimly lit stage or one with bright floods pointed right at you so the top of the neck is silhouetted --- especially if you are singing while playing and only have time for a quick glance at the fretboard. Insights and incites by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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