charlie brown Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Although NOT "Deliverance," which was a great film...there are Three more (Beatle related) Movies, that come to mind. "Magical Mystery Tour" & "Let It Be," with John's Casino being displayed/played. "Give My Regards to Broadstreet," with Paul playing his Epi "Texan" on "Yesterday"...(Again)..and it sure sounded great, too! What other movies, have Epi's, in them? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 it's so easy to cart a guitar into a foley studio that there's no reason not to use the same one. It's not foley. The music was recorded first' date=' and the actors mimed to the playback. Foley(at least the way the term is used in the US) is the opposite: foley artists produce sounds not captured during filming. Given how little disregard the movies usually have for authenticty when it comes to musical instruments and performance, I think it's doubtful that the filmakers would have cared which particular brand and model of instrument made the sounds recorded by Mandell and Weissberg. I admit, it's possible they asked for the same guitar and strap etc., but it seems unlikely. It all depends on how important those particular filmakers felt that aural authencity would be noticed by the audience. The guitar and banjo props may have been chosen by an art director or production designer based on how they look alone, or the choice may have been left to a prop master and based on what he or she had available, or even more practically, what he or she sourced on site, or how much was in the budget, etc. The director may have approved the choice based on how the actor looked with the instrument. Who knows? Your absolutely right about how much of Deliverance is dubbed. John Boorman, the director of Deliverance, is famous for redubbing virtually all the sound in his movies, including the actor's dialog (!), since, like a silent film director, he talks to his actors duing scenes. It also lets him shoot quicker, since he doesn't sweat a mispronounced word or any off-mic audio, since he knows he is going to replace it all later. Speaking of which, foley artists often use material completely unrelated to the actual physical items seen in the shot to provide the [i']impression[/i] of the sound the audience expects to hear, versus the actual sound, which might be unsatisfactory versus your memory of the actual sound, or how you imagine it would sound given what you are seeing on screen. Early foley artists rattled saw blades to produce thunder effects, clopped coconuts for horses hooves, etc., and that tradition continues today, albiet in a sometimes more sophisticated fashion. Besides audio created by the foley artist to match that made by an actor's movements, today's sound editors often rely on libraries of prerecorded sounds to layer in ambient and critical sound cues. In most case, nobody bothers to find out the metal composition of the keys jingling or whether they made contact with a steel or brass lock--they put in the sound that seems to fit. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Although NOT "Deliverance' date='" which was a great film...there are Three more (Beatle related) Movies, that come to mind. "Magical Mystery Tour" & "Let It Be," with John's Casino being displayed/played. "Give My Regards to Broadstreet," with Paul playing his Epi "Texan" on "Yesterday"...(Again)..and it sure sounded great, too! What other movies, have Epi's, in them? CB[/quote'] An intersting thing about "Give My Regards To Broadstreet" is that unlike how most movie musical scenes are shot, where the players mime back to prerecorded tracks, much of the music you hear in the film WAS actually captured live during filming. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicester35 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 On a low-budget film the answer might be no because nobody cares' date=' but for something big like Deliverance, will they get the guitar? You bet. They'll even ask that the same capo and guitar strap is used.[/quote'] I'm not disputing what you are saying, as I have never been near a movie set in my life. But you set me thinking. According to imdb, the total budget for Deliverance was $2 million. Doesn't sound much now, but then the movie was shot in 1971/2. I wondered how this budget compared with the other releases of that era. Well - that year's big Oscar winners, The Godfather and Cabaret cost $6 million each. The big action movie of 1972 The Poseidon Adventure cost over $5 million (even though it's crap). My favourite movie of that year, The Getaway came in at under $4 million - (but Steve McQueen was a huge star by then and he probably pocketed a fair old chunk of that). There wasn't a Bond movie released in 1972, but Live and Let Die was shot that year, at a cost of $7 million. To provide a sense of scale: by 1985 the budget for a Bond movie had reached $30 million (A View To a Kill) but sadly did not encompass a convincing toupee for Roger Moore; A Quantum of Solace (2008) cost $200 million. So I guess you're right. In its day Deliverance wasn't a huge budgeted picture it was still a fairly expensive one. Makes you wonder why they didn't just grab the Martin which apparently was the guitar of choice in the book itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Deliverance was big. $2 million in 1972 was a lot for a film, especially a film shot almost entirely in rural locations with few big props and no special effects to speak of apart from maybe a blood capsule or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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