de_stoffel Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi everybody! This is my first post so let me introduce myself: My name is Stoffel, I'm from Belgium and I've been playing guitar for about 6 years now. A couple of months ago I became the proud owner of this beauty That's right, a 2009 MiC cherry casino. I've been playing this guitar non-stop since I bought it. But now I want to do some minor modifications to the guitar. That's the reason I registered myself to this forum! What I would like to do (I won't be doing this all at once, probably just one thing at the time) : - I would like to install new tuners, I feel the factory tuners don't hold the tuning very well so this is probably one of the first things I'll change. What kind of tuners would you guys suggest? Please bear in mind that I don't really won't to be drilling new holes and stuff.. - I think my pickups are kind of microphonic, there's this very highpitched squeal when I play with my drive set a tad higher, this squealing stops when I touch the pickup covers. Has anyone waxpotted their casino p90-s, did it do any good? -Perhaps I would like to put a bigsby on my casino. I know the b70 should be okay but what about a b30? Will this fit my casino too? - I actually don't really like the white pickguard and would very much like a black (/white/black) pickguard instead (without the €-logo) I already emailed WD-music and pickguard heaven about this, they both say that their standard casino pickguard will not fit my made in china casino,. Are there any other options (preferably cheap) instead of having a pickguard custom made by one of the aforementioned companies? That's about it, I hope you guys have some helpful input on these questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumbone Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Welcome to the forum Stoffel. I don't own a Casino, but have recently purchased a used Sheraton. The OEM tuners were the first thing replaced on my Sherry, and the Grover Imperials work great! Concerning the squeals, the Casino is a full hollow body, unlike the Sheraton, which is a semi hollow body. This fact, combined with the P90's, are a known source of feedback at higher volumes or gain settings. There's nothing you can do about the full hollow body, but you can replace the pickups...just a suggestion. The pickguard was removed from my Sheraton by the original owner, but was included in the sale. I installed it and played with it for about 10 minutes, then removed it, and it will stay off...just my personal preference. As for the Bigsby, I don't really care for them, so, sorry, I can't help you there, but I'm certain others here will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezz Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi, I have a question for Strumbone. Are the tuners for a Sheraton and a Casino the same ? Same post diameter etc.. I have just purchased a used Casino and I too notiiced it doesn't hold tune too well. Not bad though. I am considering an up grade, but the amount of possibilities are confusing and don't want to hassle with returns. There are lots that "look like " they'll work . I dont want to drill any additinal holes and one time I went to remove a bushing from a headstock, it didn't go too well. I had to stop before I was able to get it out. So bushing size is key. I would really like to keep the bushings in place. Is it possible to keep the stock bushing AND get a better set of tuners ? :- Thanks guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Welcome Stoffel! I too have a Cherry Casino MIC. Mine was made in 2006. Now, I honestly don't know too much about pickup modification. Some of the more experienced forum members could probably point you AND me! in the right direction. As for the tuners, I would definitely switch them out. I put Grover Imperials on mine with the Jazz buttons. You could also go the elitist route and use the Grover Rotomatics those are also really good. I think you might have to ream the holes because as far as I know, the tuner bushings are in Customary Units. The chinese tuners are in Metric. As for the pickguard, you'll probably need to custom order a pickguard for it. Maybe someone in the forum could help you with that. (cough-twang-cough) Congrats and keep picking! These Casino's are AWESOME guitars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi and welcome, I had tuning problems with my Gibson ES-330 and my MIK Casino (the 330 has the original Klusons and the previous owner of my Casino put Grovers on it). I solved the tuning problem by putting pencil lead graphite in the slots of the nut whenever I change the strings. It lubricates the nut and keeps the strings from binding in there. TWANG on this forum can make a pickguard for you. You might try sending him a PM. If not you can have one made by pickguard heaven http://pickguards.us/priceothergibson.html but you must send them a tracing of your pickguard so that they can cut it to the right size. I agree, the Casino looks better with a black PG. Before: After: The previous owner of my Casino also put Duncan P90s in it, and they are great. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumbone Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi' date=' I have a question for Strumbone. Are the tuners for a Sheraton and a Casino the same ? Same post diameter etc.. I have just purchased a used Casino and I too notiiced it doesn't hold tune too well. Not bad though. I am considering an up grade, but the amount of possibilities are confusing and don't want to hassle with returns. There are lots that "look like " they'll work . I dont want to drill any additinal holes and one time I went to remove a bushing from a headstock, it didn't go too well. I had to stop before I was able to get it out. So bushing size is key. I would really like to keep the bushings in place. Is it possible to keep the stock bushing AND get a better set of tuners ? [confused'] Thanks guys ! Mezz, I'm afraid that question will have to answered by some of the forum members who have many different instruments...I only have one electric...the Sheraton. I would assume all Epiphones have the same size tuner hole, but you and I both know what happens when you ***-U-ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It could be your nut causing the tuning issue, and is probably not the tuners themselves. I would replace it with a bone nut, by a pro, your tuning will be solid then. As far as PU go, just pot the ones you have with wax, that will cut down on the microphonics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de_stoffel Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Thanks for all the replies guys! Next time I change the strings I'll put some pencil lead graphite in the slots, if this doesn't help I'll see whether I change the nut or the tuners. I'll probably just pot the pickups, I've also got a microphonic neck pick-up in my tele so I'll do them all at once! Notes_Norton your casino looks great (the es 330 as well, the finish on that one is soooo beautiful, I'm dying for a 325/335/345 in that color) ! It's funny how small things like new knobs (which I'm considering as well after seeing your guitar) and a new pickguard can totally change a guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezz Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hi, I Just got my new tuning pegs and they are great ! Here is a great websight with a lot of neat stuff for guitar builders and hot rodders. Here is the link to the tuners page :http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Gotoh_Tuners/Gotoh_Vintage-style_Oval_Knob_Tuners.html My tuning problems seem to over now. Nice quality tuners that required no drilling etc... Now I would like a black pearl pickguard. :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 <...>Notes_Norton your casino looks great (the es 330 as well' date=' the finish on that one is soooo beautiful, I'm dying for a 325/335/345 in that color) ! It's funny how small things like new knobs (which I'm considering as well after seeing your guitar) and a new pickguard can totally change a guitar! [/quote'] Thanks. I thought the white pickguard caught the eyes first and distracted the attention from the nice wood grain, and then the knobs just looked to plain and "generic" against the wood. So I put the black PG on, and that brought the first sight to the wood, and to match the black PG, I decided on black Witch Hat knobs. When I got done, I realized that I "gibson-ized" it to look similar to my ES-330 (which I've had since the 1970s). Those two guitars are my absolute favorites. I love the clean P90 sound and the hollow body warms the sound up just a bit without adding any distortion. On those songs that I play almost clean (just a touch of reverb) they sound better than anything else I've tried. Of course, that is to my ears. YMMV. Insights and incites by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Welcome de_stoffel,pretty guitar,you can see my Casios in the lounge section under the heading My guitar family,unfortunately squealing and feedback are inherant problems with Casinos that can partially corrected by standing farther away from the amp or changing the angle of the guitar in relation to the amp.Grover Imperials as someone suggested are an excellent idea as is the Bigsby but as to which model I don't know. ---------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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