epi8668 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Just curious if the dark tones of the Valve Standard is typical or if mine has issues. The cheaper the guitar I play through it, the better the amp sounds. My guitars with a full rich tone sound like mud. I've eq'd the bass to zero, mid to about halfway & treble to max and still I got mud. The only work around is a pedal where I basically thin the guitar tone going into the amp. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hi and welcome to the Forum! I have a Valve Standard. I replaced the stock Epi speaker with a NOS CTS speaker (ca. 1975). Yes, I also find that the amp is a little dark sounding and have to crank the mid's and high's and cut the bass. The amp has a definite "vintage" sound to it, but it tends to be somewhat "lacklustre". I find that using a Boss GE-7 eq makes a big difference. The digital effects are not very practical and really add a lot of hiss, so I use my Boss ME-50 for good analog effects. It is hard to find a good "bedroom" amp that sounds anywhere as good as my Vox Valvetronix gigging amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cGil Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 The Valve Standard has a 4k OT. That's part of the problem. It may help the tone of the stock OT to simply add another 8ohm speaker in series for a 16 ohm load. Double the load, double the reflected impedance, and bingo. 8k for the power tubes. For the best tone, try a proper 18watt OT with an 8k primary impedance. Heyboer makes some of the best ones, but they're fairly expensive at $75~. MPS and Edcor OT's are reasonably cheep and get good reviews. The only downside of the Edcore is the lack of multiple output taps. Gil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epi8668 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hey bluesman ... Thanks! I agree that the dsp effect are a waste. I picked mine up second hand & when I was testing the amp I was playing a squire tele - it sounded great! Then at home I plugged in my '72 Tele Deluxe R.I. and it was mudd-o-riffic. I find it odd that the Valve Standard plays well w/ some guitars & so "lackluster" with others. Thanks for the eq tip. cgil ... wow - thanks for info. A few months ago I ran an extension speaker to test that speaker out. I noticed more clarity with the "external" speaker but thought I was just hearing a fuller wider sound due to two speakers working. Honestly I'm not an "amp-tinkerer" - I fear I'd blow something up trying to replace the output transformer. I know different amp makers go after different nuances, but why did Epiphone go so "low frequency" ... it seems odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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