Particle Board Casino?

[DizzyFingers]

Dizzy' date=' don't mind those guys, they don't know what they're talking about.

 

Please post some pics of your work, I am very curious to see the Piezo installation.

 

BTW, when you use a Sawsall on a piece of painted "laminate" it tends to distort the primer layer, making it look thicker than it really is...[/quote']

 

Send me a PM with your address and I'll gladly mail you a piece of the cutout I made from my Casino...

 

Dizzy

[brianh]

OK, done.

 

It would still be helpful to post some pics for the rest of the guys if you can.

 

Thanks!

[DizzyFingers]

I don't have a macro on my camera...but you can do it once you get the sample I send you...BTW I thought it looked like particle board...could very well be G1S plywood...

[fenrirlupus]

Obviously you have had little experience with guitars...! Ever heard of preamps put into hollowbodies? I guess you have never seen a "Guitorgan"...

 

It's hardly "ruined"...and it will sound much better than before besides...

 

*sigh*

 

http://www.ehx.com/products/hog

^^ guitorgan in a stompbox. No guitar mangling necessary.

[peeper]

1) You have no idea why the back was cut FYI...

 

 

Clinging to ignorance is not a virtue...!

Neither do you' date=' you butchered the guitar for no good reason but your own ignorance, then come here spouting crap, claiming its not a virtue. Whos the one hackin holes across from holes to put junk in their guitar. If that ain't ignorant...

 

 

And it is described EVERYWHERE as being a laminate body. What do you think that means? YES IT IS PLYWOOD! THEY ALL ARE!

[leicester35]

Neither do you' date=' you butchered the guitar for no good reason but your own ignorance, then come here spouting crap, claiming its not a virtue. Whos the one hackin holes across from holes to put junk in their guitar. If that ain't ignorant...[/quote']

 

It's his guitar for chrissakes...if he wants to take a bloody sledgehammer to it, then such is his privilege (likewise if he's happy with the end result of such a course of action - then good luck to him).

 

And it's not as though chopping a hole in a bog-standard Asian Epiphone is akin to taking a razor blade to the Mona Lisa.

[duane v]

Some folks would be shocked to see what I do to my Gibson's[biggrin]

 

That's what guitars are for, well unless you're a collector. There's only two guitars that haven't been modded in my collection.

[vomer]

+1 Duane. The only guitar in our house I haven't modded is mrs. v.'s Michael Kelly acoustic bass. Guys, give the fella a break- he was worried he had particleboard. Musikron's got a point, it is generally known Gib/Epi semis are maple laminate, but can we all play nice together?

[duane v]

And speaking of modding, my daughter accidentally broke the internal latch mechanism within the combination lock of the JL REV case#-o .... I hope TKL makes replacements[crying]

[peeper]

My business is repairing guitars. My pet peeve is people destroying them.

[duane v]

My business is repairing guitars. My pet peeve is people destroying them.

 

Well lets reserve opinion until we see the final product. Though your knowledge is appreciated, you attacking someone is not.

[smips65]

 

It's his guitar, can do what he likes, I'm in this camp.

 

That said, not being as knowledgable as I should be, why add a (I'm guessing here), third pickup to this.

 

Does a Baggs piezo sound, better, different, just curious.

 

Being a plywood top and back, not going to get a really good acoustic flavor from this I would think, (IMHO).

 

Not an expert, that's why I come here, to learn.

[Vic Flick]

Some folks would be shocked to see what I do to my Gibson's

 

Back in the '70s' date=' I had a Gibson L-5 CES, a great player but man did it feedback through my Marshall stack. So anyways, my parents has this termite problem, and these guys were pumping this foamy stuff in the wall. So I says HEY, I got me an idea. So I give the guys twenty bucks, and they pump this foamy stuff into the f holes of my L-5. I figure that would stop the feedback, and besides, I don't gotta worry about bugs eating my guitar if you know what I mean.

 

It worked pretty good for awhile, and then one night I was playing [i']Pinball Wizard[/i] like real loud, I hit the first Bsus4 chord and the foamy stuff just broke apart and shot out the f holes!!! So now I had to come up with something better, and one day I was looking at my 1959 Les Paul Cherryburst and I noticed they kinda had the same shape. So it hit me, my Les Paul don't feed back, and has really great sustain, so it would probably work pretty good with those sustained chords. So I get my chisel and hammer, we didn't have power tools back then, and took the back off the L-5. And you know what, there were termites in there. But fortunately I had a warranty with the guys who pumped the foamy stuff and I got my twenty back. Anyways, I tried to put my Cherryburst Les Paul body inside the L-5, but the neck was in the way. So I took my hammer and chisel hand hacked off the neck, then she fit like a dream. A little plastic wood, put the back back on the L-5, you'd never know. It was great, no feedback anymore.

 

But before I put the back back on, I cut a chunk out of it with my Bowie knife, and they could call it maple, but it was really composite board!!! What's going on here??? Just to make sure, I took the back off my Danelectro Convertible, I know that's real wood, and the L-5 was nothing like that. What a rip off!!!

[duane v]

Back in the '70s' date=' I had a Gibson L-5 CES, a great player but man did it feedback through my Marshall stack. So anyways, my parents has this termite problem, and these guys were pumping this foamy stuff in the wall. So I says HEY, I got me an idea. So I give the guys twenty bucks, and they pump this foamy stuff into the f holes of my L-5. I figure that would stop the feedback, and besides, I don't gotta worry about bugs eating my guitar if you know what I mean.

 

It worked pretty good for awhile, and then one night I was playing [i']Pinball Wizard[/i] like real loud, I hit the first Bsus4 chord and the foamy stuff just broke apart and shot out the f holes!!! So now I had to come up with something better, and one day I was looking at my 1959 Les Paul Cherryburst and I noticed they kinda had the same shape. So it hit me, my Les Paul don't feed back, and has really great sustain, so it would probably work pretty good with those sustained chords. So I get my chisel and hammer, we didn't have power tools back then, and took the back off the L-5. And you know what, there were termites in there. But fortunately I had a warranty with the guys who pumped the foamy stuff and I got my twenty back. Anyways, I tried to put my Cherryburst Les Paul body inside the L-5, but the neck was in the way. So I took my hammer and chisel hand hacked off the neck, then she fit like a dream. A little plastic wood, put the back back on the L-5, you'd never know. It was great, no feedback anymore.

 

But before I put the back back on, I cut a chunk out of it with my Bowie knife, and they could call it maple, but it was really composite board!!! What's going on here??? Just to make sure, I took the back off my Danelectro Convertible, I know that's real wood, and the L-5 was nothing like that. What a rip off!!!

 

[Vic Flick]

 

I'd show you a picture of it, but my camera doesn't have a mackerel lens, just a fish eye.

[brianh]

Hey there's worse things - he's only modding a $400 guitar, not smashing a Custom LP to pieces like some folks:

 

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[vomer]

My business is repairing guitars. My pet peeve is people destroying them.

 

 

LOL, I see your point.

[peeper]

I was brought up to respect musical instruments, and understand that you never really OWN a fine instrument, you are just its caretaker for a period of time.

[deflepfan]

:-

+1

 

You did 'what' to an L-5??

Brian, did you know about this?

Sheila

[charlie brown]

I'd show you a picture of it' date=' but my camera doesn't have a mackerel lens, just a fish eye.[/quote']

 

 

P U....LOL!

 

CB

[JohnMcClane5000]

Back in the '70s' date=' I had a Gibson L-5 CES, a great player but man did it feedback through my Marshall stack. So anyways, my parents has this termite problem, and these guys were pumping this foamy stuff in the wall. So I says HEY, I got me an idea. So I give the guys twenty bucks, and they pump this foamy stuff into the f holes of my L-5. I figure that would stop the feedback, and besides, I don't gotta worry about bugs eating my guitar if you know what I mean.

 

It worked pretty good for awhile, and then one night I was playing [i']Pinball Wizard[/i] like real loud, I hit the first Bsus4 chord and the foamy stuff just broke apart and shot out the f holes!!! So now I had to come up with something better, and one day I was looking at my 1959 Les Paul Cherryburst and I noticed they kinda had the same shape. So it hit me, my Les Paul don't feed back, and has really great sustain, so it would probably work pretty good with those sustained chords. So I get my chisel and hammer, we didn't have power tools back then, and took the back off the L-5. And you know what, there were termites in there. But fortunately I had a warranty with the guys who pumped the foamy stuff and I got my twenty back. Anyways, I tried to put my Cherryburst Les Paul body inside the L-5, but the neck was in the way. So I took my hammer and chisel hand hacked off the neck, then she fit like a dream. A little plastic wood, put the back back on the L-5, you'd never know. It was great, no feedback anymore.

 

But before I put the back back on, I cut a chunk out of it with my Bowie knife, and they could call it maple, but it was really composite board!!! What's going on here??? Just to make sure, I took the back off my Danelectro Convertible, I know that's real wood, and the L-5 was nothing like that. What a rip off!!!

 

Please do not tell me this story's true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You chopped off the neck of a 1959 cherryburst les paul? Oh holy mother.....! :-

 

EDIT: WAIT, AND you put foam into your Gibson L-5?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

EDITHPIAF: WAIT, AND you removed the back of your L-5 before you chopped off the neck of the 59 les paul????????!!!!!!!!! *faint*

[Vic Flick]

Please do not tell me this story's true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You chopped off the neck of a 1959 cherryburst les paul? Oh holy mother.....! :-

 

EDIT: WAIT' date=' AND you put foam into your Gibson L-5?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

EDITHPIAF: WAIT, AND you removed the back of your L-5 before you chopped off the neck of the 59 les paul????????!!!!!!!!! *faint*[/quote']

 

Yeah, but I really regret taking the back off the Danelectro. That was a really good guitar!!!

[smips65]

Best part of that JerryMac...........

 

At least you got your 20 bucks back from the foam guys.

[Red 333]

So I give the guys twenty bucks' date=' and they pump this foamy stuff into the f holes of my L-5. [/quote']

 

I think you overpaid for that, my friend. You obviously know nothing about either guitars or pest extermination.

 

: )

 

Red 333

[carverman]

why add a (I'm guessing here)' date=' third pickup to this.

 

Does a Baggs piezo sound, better, different, just curious.

 

Being a plywood top and back, not going to get a really good acoustic flavor from this I would think, (IMHO).

 

Not an expert, that's why I come here, to learn.

[/quote']

Well I'm not an expert on piezos either..but the LR-Baggs t-bridge piezo with each

saddle being individual does have a unique sound to it when replacing the top part

of the t-o-m.

 

It is high impedance (5meg volume pot provided with it), or you can wire it up with

their blend preamp that runs off a longlife 9v battery), to be able to blend it with

the humbuckers, or allow the selected humbucker to come through, or the o/p

of the piezo by itself. This is accomplished through a 3 way mini-toggle that

comes prewired with the blend preamp.

 

I used mine on a neck through design custom semi-acoustic LP style that I made

for myself and I found the bridge piezo to be a bit "sibulant" by itself, so I

added a 5 meg volume and 5meg tone control to it and ran that into the Blend

preamp for better sound. The wiring is a bit of a nightmare..but it works and

the sounds are very unique.

 

Does it add an acoustic flavour to a sem-hollow, solid body, or "semi-solid" as I have it?

 

I would say yes..but you have to blend and adjust controls to come up with

the most pleasing acoustic sound from it.

 

Blending the bridge hb tone in helps to achieve that acoustic sound.

I went one step further and did up individual volume and tone controls for it..

now I have 7 knobs (unfortunately)on it as this was a prototype and the design grew

more controls as I experimented with it..but what the hell..it's my own idea.

 

Now if I ever did another one, I would use a master volume and individual tones

and a different selector switch system rather than the Gibson style control

layout..because you end up with sh*tload of knobs that add clutter...but..

I didn't know at the time..just followed the schematic provided.