Redddog Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Buy another guitar that looks like what you want. You will then have 2 really nice guitars for the same amout of money as it would take to refinish yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g61201281734168 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Honestly I believe sanding your guitar down is not in your best interest unless you know what your doing and much better off buying a Casino without the poly . I did not like the poly on mine looked like thick nail polish so its gone bought a revolution Casino and love it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 jerrymac brings up another valid reason do put in the "CONS" column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well, I guess we can all stop beating the dead horse with sticks. I guess it'll just never happen. Thanks for all of your advice and patience. I am STILL very interested in luthierie though. I'm gonna work on that Stratocaster and learn a thing or two about making a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smips65 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well' date=' I guess we can all stop beating the dead horse with sticks. I guess it'll just never happen. Thanks for all of your advice and patience. I am STILL very interested in luthierie though. I'm gonna work on that Stratocaster and learn a thing or two about making a guitar.[/quote'] No need for discouragement. Building and making a guitar, in my honest opinion is far different than refinishing one. Hell, I'm still mucking around with nuts and saddles on my personal project guitar. Talk about being taught patience the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well, I'm not MAKING one. I'm refinishing it. I'm gonna try and get it close to George Harrison's "Rocky" If I find the psychedelic nail polish scheme is too crazy. I'll have a pretty nice Sonic Blue Strat with Custom 59 pups in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewk Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Hey' date=' who you callin' an opinionated stranger? I may be stranger than most but I'm absoultely, definitely, NOT opinionated. And that's an undeniable, irrefutable fact![/quote']Actually I meant myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewk Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hey Anthony - you got some pretty forceful replies here, they might have sounded hostile, but they weren't. Those of us who got worked up have been through the pain of doing something dumb to a guitar and wrecking it (well, I have, anyway) and the point of yelling at you about sanding the Casino is just that it's the wrong place to start. You can't get skills if you're feeling paranoid about damaging something, because you don't relax and get a feel for the work. I think a Rocky Strat would be a great place to start, if you want 100% authenticity paint it Sonic Blue before you refinish to red! At the risk of starting another prolonged discussion, if you want your Casino to feel a bit less glassy, there are all kinds of things you can do to the finish without needing to strip it. Stripping it is a no-win job because even if you did it just right, there will always be tiny pits and dips where the finish is clinging, and you would have to remove every one. But there's no reason you can't sand the finish thinner, or use a milder abrasive like 0000 steel wool and wear it down until you like it, then polish it up. I did that to my Sheraton a while back, difficult job, but nothing compared to a refinish. I learned a lot about poly finishes on archtops in the process! Here's the thread on it. If you try something like this, start with the Strat, get good at it, then tackle the Casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Never mind' date=' sure use heat, burn the goddamn $h!T off with napalm, your guitar will be fine. [/quote'] OMG !!! I haven't laughed this hard in a while!!!!!!!!! I used to apply camoflauge epoxy (2-part) matte finishes to rifles & shotguns when I was a gunsmith.........talk about a mess! But the Coronado "Epoxy/Hardener" mix I was spraying(ships hull paint), couldn't even be SANDED off without a powersander, knock it on a treelimb, no biggie, it was there to stay. Why not post a "want to trade my Cherry Casino for........." in a few places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hey Anthony - you got some pretty forceful replies here' date=' they might have sounded hostile, but they weren't. Those of us who got worked up have been through the pain of doing something dumb to a guitar and wrecking it (well, I have, anyway) and the point of yelling at you about sanding the Casino is just that it's the wrong place to start. You can't get skills if you're feeling paranoid about damaging something, because you don't relax and get a feel for the work. I think a Rocky Strat would be a great place to start, if you want 100% authenticity paint it Sonic Blue before you refinish to red!At the risk of starting another prolonged discussion, if you want your Casino to feel a bit less glassy, there are all kinds of things you can do to the finish without needing to strip it. Stripping it is a no-win job because even if you did it just right, there will always be tiny pits and dips where the finish is clinging, and you would have to remove every one. But there's no reason you can't sand the finish thinner, or use a milder abrasive like 0000 steel wool and wear it down until you like it, then polish it up. I did that to my Sheraton a while back, difficult job, but nothing compared to a refinish. I learned a lot about poly finishes on archtops in the process! [u']Here's the thread on it.[/u] If you try something like this, start with the Strat, get good at it, then tackle the Casino. Thanks for the kind words Matthew. I know you all weren't be hostile. You all just wanted to keep me from messing up a very nice guitar. I'll definitely start on that Stratocaster project though. Like you said, Matthew. Gotta get some experience and some skills worked up. I appreciate all of the input and I think I can put this one to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm glad we talked you down from the ledge my man. If you get stuck on the strat, we'll give you a shove in the right direction. Pics or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Definitely! I should start tackling it sometime this coming week! And of course.. The pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Monday Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 not sure if this is going to be helpful, but have you seen this thread here at mylespaul.com? http://=http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epiphone-les-pauls/17007-dulling-poly-finished-guitars-pic-heavy.html i just did this to my finish and it's a great improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Welcome to the forums, Stormy! And great find! Did you use a power sander? Maybe I can do it by hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Monday Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 not worth doing by hand. i used two different sanders. one is the sort of power sander that one could attach a 3m brand green scrubbing pad to. the brand of sander here is not as important as it's ability to clamp the 3m pad to it. this cuts the time of the base step considerably. random orbit is also essential. second the Black and Decker Mouse style sander ($40 U.S.) + the polishing pad kit that one can purchase seperately makes the secondary parts of the process a breeze. all the info you need is in the thread i posted. doing it by hand would never get the desired results. not without taking a medieval amount of labor and time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Welcome to the forums' date=' Stormy! And great find! Did you use a power sander? Maybe I can do it by hand![/quote'] We are talking about stripping the finish off the strat right? You can use a heatgun and a scraper, or just sand it off. I would use some sort of powered sander for the bulk of the work though if you go the sanding route, that poly is hard and thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewk Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 not worth doing by hand.... doing it by hand would never get the desired results. not without taking a medieval amount of labor and time! I have a different experience here (have a look at my earlier link). I started out with a sander and it left a lot of small squiggle marks on the surface whenever a piece of grit would lodge in the pad. When I switched to 0000 steel wool, changing pads regularly, the finish went smooth and dull with only a moderate amount of effort. You can also wet-sand with 800 grit wet-and-dry paper to get a good start ... don't worry, you won't go through the poly! So I would recommend doing it by hand. For Rocky, I'd use a heat gun, I just stripped a very thick poly finish off a jazz bass body this way. You need to be careful about scorching the wood, so find out the minimum amount of heat it takes to chip the finish off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noijj Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Can't wait to see the strat Rocky project. Good on you for wanting to get stuck into a luthier-style project. Who knows where it may take you? As for the Casino idea I would recommend building a space ship in your back yard and flying to the moon. You'll find it easier and have better results! (only jesting!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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