noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Okay, so I found a post on here from 2008 in a Google search. Saw that the guy had a guitar identical to mine, just a different finish on it (and it may not have been an EO-1). I did some searching, and I found very little. What I did find was that the EO-1 had a butterfly on the body right under the air hole. Mine does not. This guitar is a Gibson Epiphone Orville Series EO-1. It has the crescent moon and star with the dot underneath it on the head stock. It's Acoustic/Electric with the 9-volt battery plug in for the amplifier. It's the one in the picture. I have more pictures, but I don't know how to post them. What I'm looking for is information. It's an old guitar I know for sure. It was my uncles first guitar when he was younger, and it was passed down to me. Why does this particular EO-1 have no butterfly? Above all, I'd like to know it's rarity and value. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I believe there were a couple 'bling' levels of this guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 This site shows an EO-2EB Maybe the '2' is the blingier variety. EB probably means Ebony. http://fr.audiofanzine.com/guitare-electro-acoustique/epiphone/EO-2EB/ The guitar dater project puts the serial number in 2001. Not sure if that's correct. Does that sound reasonable, given your knowledge of it's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 So, obviously the blingier versions are more rare, but did none of the EO-1's have a butterfly? All I truly know about the guitar is what is on it, and that it was my uncle's first guitar. Now he started playing when he was 12 or 13 and is now 51 I believe. So roughly 37 years ago aging it back to at least '73 giving that the guitar would have been brand new. I'm not sure if he bought it new or not. Another odd thing on the guitar is that the serial number has been cover by a new serial number. I read that since sometime in the 90's, I believe, that the serial number's 1st and 5th number was the year, and that the last number indicates the order it was made in or however you would word that. On paintings you have 2/100 indicating it was the second copy made. This would not hold true on my guitar do to the new serial number because the the 1st and 5th numbers are 1 and 3 and the last digit is a J. I know that the guitar is not from 1913. I hope it is though. lol I really wish I had a history on this guitar do to that serial number. I don't know want to try and peel this new one off because it could ruin the original. I've seen that ebony guitar before. I looked up the butterfly and found that in a guitar museum. I noticed it was an EO-2 so it ddin't really help my research on my EO-1. I heard somewhere that the EO-1 had the butterfly, but I can't remember where that was. I wish I could give you more information in order to get more myself, but I really can't. If there happens to be anything else at all that you can tell me about the Gibson Epiphone Orville EO-1 I would be grateful. Also, if there's anything else I can tell you about my guitar just by looking at it that would help you out, let me know. I'd like to know as much as possible. Thanks Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 According to this thread: http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11228 the EO-x was made from '92 - 2000. I'm fairly certain they were not making this model in 1973. Maybe your uncle's remembry of the history of this guitar is a bit fuzzy. The headstock shape and logo are a redux of an old.. .really old Gibson headstock and logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Well Tommy. You hurt me today, but I thank you for it. I don't see him being fuzzy memoried about his first guitar when he was a boy. I was lied to. He gave it to me probably because it was worthless. If Brianh is right, then it's worth roughyl 150 bucks do to my working amp. Mine was made in Korea as brian said, and it is just 100% identical to the one Shania holds in that picture. Thanks a lot for your time and your help hunting this down. Greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 your guitar dater project just told me as follows: Your guitar was made at the Kalamazoo Plant, USA approximately in: 1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me because the sticker in the sound hole says "Made in Korea" but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me because the sticker in the sound hole says "Made in Korea" but... I must have transposed the serial number, because when I plugged it into the GuitarDaterProject, it came up 2001. Go. figure, but based on 'Made in Korea', I know '67 is not possible. In '67, Epiphones were made in Kalamazoo, MI. Then they moved off shore when Norlin bought CMI. Japan was the first stop, then Korea (The year eludes me), then, eventually, China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 See, that's my confusion. It says Korea on the sticker, but Kalamazoo on the site. Did you do some zooming in to get the serial number? It says USA in 67, but like I said, the sticker says Korea for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 ...and at first, I put in the serial number under the Epiphone category, but when I get this information I put it under the Gibson. Oddly enough the serial number was unrecognizable under Epiphone, but it told me right away when I used Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 See' date=' that's my confusion. It says Korea on the sticker, but Kalamazoo on the site. Did you do some zooming in to get the serial number? It says USA in 67, but like I said, the sticker says Korea for some reason. [/quote'] The guitar dater is by no means infallible. Lots of gaps and inaccurate readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 The guitardateproject is a wiki of sorts. The originators of it released it with the information they knew. If you have a model that hasn't been input, it will not show up. You can input the number y ou have and other pertinent information so they can update their database. it is a labor of love, so your information will not show up immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can you post a clear picture of the label? and / or serial number plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Tommy, I'm not sure how to get pictures on here. If you give me an email address or explain how to post I'll surely send you one. The model is in their database (or w/e), and the serial number that is on the guitar came through too saying 67 in Kalamazoo. Unless you can do something else with that info it would be pointless to have. The picture I have of it, or can take of it, might not be to clear. It's a camera phone. I'll see what I can do though if you let me know how to post or get me an address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Noob, long story short, your guitar was made in Korea like it says on the label. Guitar Dater is not an official Epiphone database, it's just a numerically based algorithm that usually, but not always, spits out correct information. There are many, many threads on this site about the inconsistent labeling practices of Epiphone after they were bought by Gibson/Norlin et al, just type "label" into the search engine and you will find incredible repositories of information including: http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13965 and: http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13975 and: http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13319 One man scorned and covered with scars still strove with his last ounce of courage to reach the unreachable stars; and the world was better for this. - Don Quixote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 This is a test. Thanks Paruwi6172. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8113/pic0103y.jpg edit: I thought it would put the photo on the site, like he did in that help forum, not just a link. But, this works too. If there's a certain photo you'd like to see that will help YOU help ME with this guitar, please ask and I'll get that up. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 It needs IMG in brackets at both ends of the link to appear like this: It's also helpful to reduce the size to 640 max pixels wide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 This is a test. Thanks Paruwi6172. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8113/pic0103y.jpg edit: I thought it would put the photo on the site' date=' like he did in that help forum, not just a link. But, this works too. If there's a certain photo you'd like to see that will help YOU help ME with this guitar, please ask and I'll get that up. Thanks everyone.[/quote'] To put a visible picture in your post, paste the HTTP code, then highlight the entire code from 'http' through 'jpg'. Then click the icon above the text input window that looks like a mountain with a sun above it. Camera phones are notiously bad picture takers if you want to see detail. They are the Kodak Instamatic 110s of the camera world. They may be good phones, but as a camera? eh... Getting a close-up of the label may be difficult with these multiple task electronic devices are nigh on to impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 I agree, but thank's for the picture posting tip. I'll have a camera hiding somewhere, so I'll find it and get the label with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irybob Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hi there folks This acoustic was DEFINITELY made in the 1990s - my uncle also had one and his best friend had the EO-2 which was the higher spec model, but according to him the EO1 sounded far superior especially when unplugged. I lovedthe rounded headstock and remembered it and Facebooked them both to find out what it was so i could try and get one. Anyway, I've JUST bought one on ebay from a guy in Texas and its enroute to England now. He told me however that the preamp cover is missing but that the preamp is an Epiphone IV. I have found no results on this, in the same way that finding the EO-1 or 2 is like finding rocking-horse droppings. If any of you have got a way of sending photos of the electric system to me at s.heald1@barnsley.org it would be greatly appreciated as I try and source a replacement. If it is any help, the EO1 and EO2 are now becoming something of a collectors geetar. Don't part with it easily as there are a lot of people that will try and tell you otherwise! Hope this helps Irybob in England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Well I'm back, 3 years later, and I can STILL not find ANYTHING on my guitar. I still have it, in its case, and I'm looking to sell it, though I want to find some information on it because I won't part with it easily. It's still in the same condition it was in when I first posted about it, which was the same condition it was in when I got this guitar over 10 years ago from my uncle. Gibson Epiphone Orville Series Model EO-1. I can't find one single Gibson Epiphone Orville Series on ebay, much less an EO-1. I Google the thing and I get this, my 3 year old thread, with no new information. I have a million and one email addresses now, so to avoid spam I'll gladly give out an old one, so please, if you have ANY information on this guitar, email me at adamlball@yahoo.com It was just played about two months ago and again about 2 weeks ago. Still sounds amazing with all parts intact, working, and looking brand new...I'm also pretty confident that it's a 60's model. I'm no pro, and I don't know where to go to have it looked at (only been to one shop and they were as ignorant as I am on the subject), but everything is pointing to the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Here is the sum total you will find out about your EO http://www.epiphonewiki.com/index.php/The_Orville_Collection Built for the sum total of 1 or 2 years, It's not surprising there is a dearth of offerings on Ebay. While I wouldn't mind having one, my money has other priorities right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobguitarist Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Thanks Tommy. Glad to see you're still on here every now and then. There's just not a way to find "bluebook" value on this guitar I guess. They are obviously rare to find, but that's doesn't always mean they are worth a lot of money I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hey noob, I think the epiwiki is your best source of info on the guitar itself. As for what it's selling for, I can chime in and say a similar pr775, the solid, blinged out version, sold on my local cl recently for $250. Sorry if all this takes the wind out of your sails, a lot of post-Kalamazoo epiphones are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for them and not much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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