Guest Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I know jackshit about guitars and even less about amps... I bought a amp recently that has a Wilder speaker and on another forum someone hit me with this: I have several Wilder speakers I bought from a local guy that parts out organs. They come from Gulbratsen organs. Wilder did make some solid state amps for a couple of years, maybe 70/71 or so. I have read that Kieth Richards used one on some recordings and one US tour about that time. I also read that several Chicago based rock bands from that time used the Wilder amps. They were a Chicago based company. I had a picture of a 4-12" speaker cabinet, no head, but I had it on my old computer when it crashed. I've spent quite a bit of time tryng to find out more, but this about all I know. There was a Harmony Central review or two, but I haven't been able to dredge them up with thier new system. I have one Wilder 12" with a jensen style cone (no whizzer) in my Deluxe Reverb, I love it, that's why I bought the others. There are 10" and 12" that come from the organs, they appear to all be 1 1/2" voice coils, large round alnico magnets (quite like a P12N) and I have three different style cones in the 12" speakers, one is quite like a P12N, another one looks much like a british cone (no whizzer), and the others all have the whizzer cone type. All of the 10" that I have also have the whizzer cones. The whizzers can be cut out, and experimenting with one of the 10's I installed a large H-type dustcap, that warmed it up quite a bit. my 2 cents, JD Questions... 1) Who is Keith Richards....only joking...got ya didn't I... 2) What is a whizzer....no I am serious this time.... 3) 1 and a 1/2 voice coils well....excuse me.....please explain 4) Cone styles...al a.......P12N......British cone Whizzers....stop now I knew there was something weird about you guys who hang out in Epiphone Amps & Accessories CONFIRMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-theory Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 A whizzer is cone material that's glued around the edge of the dust cap, sticking out. Since highs tend to come off this part of the speaker, a whizzer will tend to accentuate them. 1-1/2" voice coil is simply the diameter of the voice coil in a particular speaker. Voice coils are measured in inches. Cone style refers to the particular shape/design of a particular speaker cone. Nothing at all weird about there being specific words associated with the trade. It's just like any other industry. If you work underneath cars, you know what a tie rod end is, if you slice people open for a living, you know what a hemostat is, if you work in telecom, you know what SONET is, and if you know amps and speakers, you know what a whizzer and voice coil are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaMidnite Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 And here I thought a Whizzer was what you took after too many Budz Wizzzersss /I had to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWANG Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I knew what a hemostat was in the sixties. Never cut anyone though. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 Thanks guys Just having a little bit of fun..... Just find it amazing the whole new set of terminologies you have to learn once you walk around and start looking in the back of a amp instead of just plugging into the front of it.... Thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I read up a good bit on speakers when I was converting my shorted out Fender Frontman 60w combo into a speaker cab for my Blackstar HT-5 head.......... I was amazed at all the variables involved with modern speakers. I always liked the tone from the Frontmans well "broken in" 12"generic Jensen speaker (nothing but a blue "F/J" stamped on the back), so I left it in the cab, pulled the power chassis from above it, installed & soldered in a 1/4" input socket on the back of the cab, cut a new grille cover frame to cover the hole left by the chassis and covered it with vintage Fender cloth purchased online. By investing less than $45 and about 2 hrs. work, I saved myself the cost of a Blackstar speaker cab, which is $199 for a 1x10" unit. I've toyed with the idea of a speaker swap, but the old Jensen lends a very vintage tone to a humbucking p'up........i'd describe it as "smooth bite". Here are a before & after of the cab........it was incredibly easy to convert, and prevented the wasting of a perfectly good speaker & cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 Great job Bender.....I know what you mean about the older speakers I really like what comes out of my Pacemaker and I am sure that is a lot to do with the Wilder speaker. Its a bit of a beast..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Great job Bender.....I know what you mean about the older speakers I really like what comes out of my Pacemaker and I am sure that is a lot to do with the Wilder speaker. Its a bit of a beast..... Wow Joe........how old is that? I've got to get in touch with my Godson and find out if he still has the old Fender cab I loaned him several years ago..........It was a very simple, open back rig that housed an 18" Jensen with a red & white paper label on the back.....not a generic I don't think, and it was ancient. When I had it, I was playing my Univox B-group U-1010 exclusively, so I never even tried it out, heck, I got it FREE from a friend that didn't need it. I don't even know if the 5w head would even "push" that 18" speaker, but i'd sure like to find out. I think i'll give "kiddo" a call today and try to track it down. Edit: oops, thats a U-1010..........I made the correction. Thanks again for all the Univox info. you posted a while back Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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