ReneBoedker Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Has anybody tried using the pencil lead from a mechanical pencil as nut lube? I suspect that my strings are binding in the nut, as I often hear a "ping-ish" sound when tuning (especially the G- and B-string). Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Don't see why not although it might discolor it. A small sliver of bar soap might work too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Yes, the graphite in pencils works fine. It's also the ideal shape to get it in to the slots too. If the string still binds after the graphite, you need to open the slot a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl297 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Yes I've used it and it works, it does discolor the white plastic nuts (not sure about bone). I think it would clean off though with a damp rag. keyword "think". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Thanks. Quick responses as always. I think I'll try it and see whether it has the desired effect or not. Luckily, the discolouring won't be a problem, as my G400 has a black nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_09 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I've been recommended sewing machine oil, but I'm a bit afraid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrooks0711 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I've done it before and it seems to help. I seem to remember taking the mechanical pencil lead, placing it in the slots, and crushing it with my fingernail. It seems to make sense though as graphite nuts are regarded as better than plastic. ALL pencil "lead" is not actually lead (seriously letting children handle lead all day everyday?!) but is actually graphite so any of it should work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I've used soft pencils for over 20 years (used to be standard issue in my guitarcase) Always wondered what to do with those small leftover stumps of pencils? They're infinitely preferable over fluid lubies which attract dust and dirt and will clog up the grooves of the nut eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 The Kramer tech support rep told me to use pencil lead, and I've been using it ever since. Every time I change the strings, I apply the lead in the grooves, and it works like a charm. Insights and incites by Notes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zork Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Mix it with Chap Stick or a little Vaseline. Put it on the metal parts that the string passes over too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Has anybody tried using the pencil lead from a mechanical pencil as nut lube? I suspect that my strings are binding in the nut' date=' as I often hear a "ping-ish" sound when tuning (especially the G- and B-string). Any advise will be greatly appreciated.[/quote'] I use Big Bends Nut Sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlagJones Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I use Big Bends Nut Sauce I'm sure it is a great product but at $19 retail vs >$1 for a pencil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw1960 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I use "Slick Nutz" . Great stuff.. Its worth the price. A little goes a long way. Michael www.slicknutz.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyke1 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'm with Zork. A home-made mix that does the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I've got short pencils, hate to write with them, perfect for the nut, and they are basically free. It's the easiest, and cheapest solution - the path of least resistance. Of course, what is right for me may not be right for you. Insights and incites by Notes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawwap Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 As a violinist and cellist, as well as a guitarist, I have used pencil lead for years on all kinds of nuts!. Nothing really is much better, and as they have said above, the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disaster Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 If you're getting that nasty "ping" when tuning the slots are too narrow for the string gauge you're using. You can try the graphite (pencils, formauted guitar products, or graphite spray lubes) but I don't think it will solve anything. You really need to have the slots filed correctly. If you have the talent and are willing to buy a set of nut files go for it. If not you would be well advised to seek a professional luthier and have the nut slots filed correctly. It will get rid of the "ping" and make the tuning more stable. You can also change to narrower gauge strings if you're not addicted to a particular gauge. I don't like to recommend this because string gauge is critical to the tone & feel every player prefers. You'll have to experiment to determine what gauge the slots are cut for. I'm going to guess 9 or 10 gauge regular set (not heavy bottom or "custom" sets). Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I'm sure it is a great product but at $19 retail vs >$1 for a pencil... It's worth it. A tube of it will last the average person years' date=' you use a minuscule amount, so the cost is negligible. Plus you can find it way cheaper if you search around, you can get it on Amazon for around $12.00. Because it's thick, it stays in place. You can use it upside down, so it works much better on string trees. Adheres better to the sides of the nut slots and bridge saddles. I also use Guitar Grease from Stewart-MacDonald. It's basically graphite in a paste form, cheaper than Big Bends but not as good. Very messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I got a little tube of powdered graphite (has a very fine pinhole dispensing tip) from a hardware store.... a few bucks, have had it for years and it is going to last me many many more. I hate pencils.... why pay for all the extra wood, metal, and rubber (talking standard wood pencils with the metal ring holding the eraser on) when all you really want/need is the graphite ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Again, thanks for all the answers. Now, I have had the pencil "lead" in the nut for a couple of days, and it seems to do the job very well. It is definitely an option if you do not have any commercial lubrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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