Cisca Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 hi, someone knows if it's possible to put a Gibson tune o matic and stop bar on a Epiphone Les Paul Custom? I've got a 94' Korean Epiphone Les Paul Custom. thanks Nicola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I just took some measurements from a Full-Sized Blueprint of a 1959 Gibson Les Paul that I bought as "wall decoration" from Stewart MacDonald ($12.45), and did some research to confirm what I was thinking.... Link to StewMac Les Paul "Plan/Blueprint": http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Books,_plans/Plans/Les_Paul_Plan.html Stop-Bar Tailpiece: 3 1/4" center-to-center post measurements on both Gibson and EPI. Bridge: The only Epi parts that are not compatible are the bridges, Epis use large post bridges whereas Gibson uses smaller post Nashville and ABR-1 bridges. But Tonepros makes a direct fit bridge for Epi. Link to similar discussion: http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epiphone-les-pauls/11875-show-epiphone-gibson-parts.html Link to Guitarfetish Site (Parts) follows. I buy LOTS of goodies from them, but there ARE many other sources. The LARGE Post style bridges are compatible with EPIs. The Great thing about the Guitarfetish Tune-o-matic style bridges is that they measure 9/16" across from front to back. A STOCK EPI bridge measures only 7/16" across. This gives you a "wee bit" more intonation adjustment room. The first time I put one on a Git, I was all smiles, and have been using them ever since... http://store.guitarfetish.com/gistbr.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmitron Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I did a similar mod on my Fernandes Ravelle JPC, which "stockly" uses a GOTOH GE103BT Tune O Matic with large post and same spacing than those used on asian Epiphone. As far as I know, post spacing can't be change with an adapter kit. Metric vs inch. Epiphone TOM, GOTOH GE103, and also Gibson Nashville bridge posts spacing is still 74mm, and strings spacing: 52mm So, in order to keep the same string spacing and to simplify the mod, I've bought a very cheap (depending on where you live) Rockinger post adapter kit (large post to small post), and a GOTOH GE104N ABR1 lookalike Tune O Matic, same post spacing and string spacing as the stock one. I admit it's only for aesthetic purpose I did this mod. Original TOM and new one are both in aluminum material, nickel finish and made by the same manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisca Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 thanks for the info, but I will not buy it again because it is too bright compared to the rest of the hardware that has faded with time. I'll see if I find a used one. another question: i've found this epiphone in ebay. look at the serial,the guitar dater project says that is a 1981 Epiphone made in Korea. it's possible? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260627037977&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I'll see if I find a used one.i've found this epiphone in ebay. look at the serial,the guitar dater project says that is a 1981 Epiphone made in Korea. it's possible? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260627037977&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 Based on guitar dater, YES. After Quick look-over, guitar looks legit. You now have 37 minutes left in auction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisca Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Based on guitar dater' date=' YES. After Quick look-over, guitar looks legit. You now have 37 minutes left in auction....[/quote'] yes yes i'm watching the auction,but I'm improving mine and the guy who sells it does not have the hard case, I would not have come a broken neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Seller has 100% positive feedback. - Have you had any communication? SURELY seller would not ship "Usato" guitar in tissue paper! Good luck, IF you win, contact seller and COMFIRM how guitar will be shipped. I can't read Italian, so I can't verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 current bid 203 Euros = $254 USD. GREAT PRICE! I believe I'll watch the end of this bid just for fun! Good luck again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisca Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 current bid 203 Euros = $254 USD. GREAT PRICE! Ibelieve I'll watch the end of this bid just for fun! Good luck again! 217 euro,not bad. maybe the buyer is one of forum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 217 euro' date='not bad. maybe the buyer is one of forum..[/quote'] Love those auctions! Snagged in the last 12 seconds for $272.70 USD.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I'll see if I find a used one.i've found this epiphone in ebay. look at the serial' date='the guitar dater project says that is a 1981 Epiphone made in Korea. it's possible? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eB...:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 [/quote'] Based on guitar dater' date=' YES. After Quick look-over, guitar looks legit. You now have 37 minutes left in auction....[/quote'] No it's not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 No it's not possible. Jerrymac' date=' please explain your statement... IE: WHY not? If my understanding is epi history is not correct, I would be interested in knowing why! And of course, the Guitar Dater Project could always be wrong, but is IS one of the resouces we use to source info about our gits. From EPI Wikipedia: "In the early 1970s, Epiphone began to manufacture instruments in Japan. From the 1980s, Epiphones were manufactured mainly in Korea but also in Japan by contractors licensed by Gibson. Thus, a Korean-era solidbody Epiphone would have been built under license. In 2002, Gibson opened a factory in Qingdao, China, which manufactures Epiphone guitars exclusively." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Jerrymac' date=' please explain your statement... IE: WHY not?If my understanding is epi history is not correct, I would be interested in knowing why! And of course, the Guitar Dater Project could always be wrong, but is IS one of the resouces we use to source info about our gits. From EPI Wikipedia: "In the early 1970s, Epiphone began to manufacture instruments in Japan. From the 1980s, Epiphones were manufactured mainly in Korea but also in Japan by contractors licensed by Gibson. Thus, a Korean-era solidbody Epiphone would have been built under license. In 2002, Gibson opened a factory in Qingdao, China, which manufactures Epiphone guitars exclusively." Epiphone began the move to Korea in 1983 with Samick making a few acoustic models. In 1985, Epiphone's total revenues were less than $1 million. In early 1986, Norlin sold Gibson and the new owners decided to expand production of the Epiphone line. In 1986, Samick started manufacturing new versions of classic Epiphone models like the Sheraton, and in 1988 the line was expanded to include classic Gibson models like the Les Paul. There were no Epiphone LPs prior to 1988. The 8 in the serial # was probably a B indicating it was made in 1991 by Bohemia Musico-Delica Plant in the Czech Republic. These Les Pauls were made for the European market, and that auction was in Europe if I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmitron Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphone_Les_Paul "Epiphone Les Paul" started in 1988 oops, jerrymac was faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisca Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Epiphone began the move to Korea in 1983 with Samick making a few acoustic models. In 1985' date=' Epiphone's total revenues were less than $1 million. In early 1986, Norlin sold Gibson and the new owners decided to expand production of the Epiphone line. In 1986, Samick started manufacturing new versions of classic Epiphone models like the Sheraton, and in 1988 the line was expanded to include classic Gibson models like the Les Paul. There were no Epiphone prior to 1988. The 8 in the serial # was probably a B indicating it was made in 1991 by Bohemia Musico-Delica Plant in the Czech Republic. These Les Pauls were made for the European market, and that auction was in Europe if I remember.[/quote'] yes the auction was in Europe. you're right,it could be a B and not an 8. if i try on guitar dater project with B there isn't a result and i remember that a friend of mine has a G-400 made in Czech Republic and GDP doesn't read the serial. My Les Paul is made at Samick Plant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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