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I just picked up a LH Sheraton for $300 with case...

 

0811212063

 

2008

November

Unsung, Korea

unit #2063

 

is that accurate based on the following?

 

YYMMFFRRRRR -- new model codes, no letter prefix

Beginning 2008-09 models are appearing w/o a letter prefix to i.d. the factory. Based on what is reported so far, it appears that the serial code may be:

YY = first two digits = year of manufacture

MM = second two digits = month of manufature

FF = third two digits = factory i.d. where made -- the factory code #s identified so far are shown in red print below

RRRRR = remaining digits = ranking number

-- example 08121520333 was made in December 2008, factory 15, 2 unknown significance, 0333 unit produced

[NOTE - pre 1993-94 productions also frequently omitted factory letter codes and appeared as all numbers e.g. 023849354 -- these are Asian made (Korea, Japan, Indonesia) but again the exact factory origin is not usually available from guitardater project or other sources.]

 

FACTORY NUMBER CODES -- for some models starting in 2008, if serial # begins w/numbers

[NOTE: The factories identified by these codes are based on patterns which forum members have observed. The numbers appear as the 5th and sixth digits in the serial number.]

11 = MIC sticker on a '08 Masterbuilt 500

12 = DeaWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)

15 = Qingdao (China) -- electric

16 = Qingdao (China) -- acoustic

17 = China - factory unknown MIC sticker on a J160E

18 = China - factory unknown found on one 2009 model bass

20 = DaeWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)

21 = Unsung, Korea

 

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hi everyone,

 

newbie on the gibson forum, i just purchased a MIJ Epiphone Les Paul Special, with the following serial number(on neck plate): J97062022

According to the seller, it should be a MIJ Terada from June 97; I am not familiar with the guitar dating and ID methods so I just like to double check with the specialists here if:

 

- Terada Gakki was indeed manufacturing Epi LP Special in 97

 

- the neck plate serial number and headstock are 'period correct'

 

- photos match the description

 

many thanks to the team here

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Hi Pete,

 

Thanks for your input.

 

So in it is not from Japan, what could the J be referring to? Was there Jakarta made LP in 97?

 

I enclose further pictures for possible additional informations.

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hi everyone,

 

newbie on the gibson forum, i just purchased a MIJ Epiphone Les Paul Special, with the following serial number(on neck plate): J97062022

According to the seller, it should be a MIJ Terada from June 97; I am not familiar with the guitar dating and ID methods so I just like to double check with the specialists here if:

 

- Terada Gakki was indeed manufacturing Epi LP Special in 97

 

- the neck plate serial number and headstock are 'period correct'

 

- photos match the description

 

many thanks to the team here

 

According to this WIKI, I figured that the MIJ Epis meant for export didn't have the 'open book' headstock, so that might explain also the 3 hole TRC, but the serial number does not really work:

 

- it should be YMMPPP format and mine is YYMMPPPP

- it seems that until 97, Terada was only manufacturing semi-acoustic Epis. Serial numbers for solid bodies seems to start from 98 onwards:

 

In 1983, Epiphone export production moved from Japan to Korea [7] and In 1987, Yamano Gakki obtained the Epiphone Japan dealership and produced a limited range of Epiphone Japan semi acoustic models in cooperation with Gibson. The Terada guitar factory in Japan was used to make the Yamano Gakki Epiphone Japan guitars. After Gibson and Yamano Gakki ended Orville production in 1998, Gibson and Yamano Gakki produced an expanded Epiphone Japan model range including solid body as well as semi acoustic models.

 

Still confused. Would it be correct to say thet it is either an unrecorded LP Special from Terada 97, or a Korean LPS with unidentified J-serial number?

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If J has been confirmed as Jakarta as it seems it would, is there a list of what models/years have been made there?

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Hi

 

Let me take a shot at this.

 

I put on layaway today an Epiphone 58 Flying V

 

I took a couple crappy cell phone pics. The serial number I have is off my layaway receipt. so is this correct?

 

I06032960

 

I = Saein, Korea

 

06=2006

 

03= March

 

2960 = ????

 

My receipt actually says

 

106032960 so would that be different?

I didn't pay any real attention to the serial number so it may be I or a 1.

 

here are those crappy pics.

 

Thanks folks

 

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Apparently recent Epi serial numbers don't work with the Dater Project. What about a Wildkat with the number 1007206045? Various sites say different things, but the most logical seems to be 10 = 2010, 07 = July, 2 = factory code, 06045 = production sequence. Any thoughts?

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Hmmm.. Country code 03 on a Dot?

 

SN is 99070347 - Has a sticker on the back of the headstock that says made in Korea - another that says "Imported for set up in the USA", and has the CG sticker, which I guess is a European thing.

 

99 sounds right to when I bought it. And the sticker says Korea.. Just curious what the 03 means.

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What can ya'll tell me about this guitar? The serial number is 139660. It seems short but that's the only number on it.

 

 

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As you can see, it's an Epiphone [No Name Given]:

- double cutaway

- one single coil pickup

- one tone knob, one volume knob

- wrap-around bridge

- mahogany body and neck

- set neck (with a big, awful square joint)

- exposed-gear tuners

- (probably fake) tortoiseshell pick guard

- a nut that's probably made out of raw pasta.

 

What the heck is this thing, where was it made and how old is it? I'm sorry if anyone broke his or her neck trying to look at these photos.

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The "raw pasta" nuts were discontinued in 1987............

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All 'Epiphone by Gibson' Sheratons have been made for a short period (~86-89) at Samick, Korea

 

That I did gather. It's the mysterious "L" after the "S" that throws me. And no, it's not a lefty! :-k

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Hi,

 

and welcome here

 

Any chance to see pics of the guitar

 

front-shot, side shot where the neck meets the headstock

front and back shot of the headstock

shot from the opened control cavity

 

there has been some rumours about "LU" serials

if it is legit, it was made July 2009

 

these are some pics

 

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thanks anyway [smile]

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Sorry, it is fake_stamp-1.png

 

Epiphone stopped using this serial# format in mid 08

 

I should have thought of it in my first answer....

 

really?

it should has big difference with the legit one, shouldn't it?

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My friend got his guitar from here (it's supposed to be an authorized dealer), but it doesn´t seem too Epiphone to me, and serial number doesn't seem to fit any description i've found (1108204194). Could you help me determine if its real or not, cause I want to buy it from him.

 

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