Naradien Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Hey guys, I have a question..When you learn guitar(from anywhere), do you want to learn the theory and stuff? Or do you just take tabs and stuff to the teacher (or whatever) and play em, and let your guitar rip? I think that the theory and stuff is sort of boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKingN Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Theory no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoon Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Take some theory. You don't need to get a PhD in music theory...just enough to start connecting the dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Personally speaking, I have an unceasing case of OCD, and have a difficult time grasping things without knowing the whys and how comes. Don't ask me what time it is, if you don't want to know how to build a watch. But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Yea theory is key...no pun intended.. I am like silverbusted, I have to know why...at least the basics. If you are playing tabs and want to get straight to playing I'd say you don't need lessons from a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 An understanding of theory is a huge plus . I REFUSE TO USE TABLETURE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 You kidding? Theory is for real musicians, not guitar players. Stick to tab and let it rip, bro. (This would be sarcasm, btw Naradien. Sarcasm is kinda like music theory: it's subtle but really helpful to know!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 college has music theory classes but reading guitar off sheet music =P~ sheet music is for piano or trumpet (i played both) tabs are the correct way to learn how to play something on guitar if you are too lazy to sit down and figure it all out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 No, you don't have to learn the theory if all you want to do is cover other folks stuff. Tab is fine for that. If you ever want to compose, then you should consider learning some theory. Makes it a lot easier. If all you want to do is play in your living room or basement, you don't even need to know chords . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKingN Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Or you could sell your soul to the devil, worked for Robert Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 robert johnson over-rated? i think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlekenny Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 yeah, theory is pretty good to know. You just have to have the patience to figure it all out, I'm doing a lot of theory with my guitar teacher right know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi13ts Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 An understanding of theory is a huge plus . I REFUSE TO USE TABLETURE.... [-( [/quote'] +1 I hate using tab. I know this is just me, but whenever I see a song transcribed in TAB form, I think that it's made for stupid musicians. I know that what I said is offensive, but we already created a fool-proof way how to read music, and it can be transposed into other different instruments (treble clef works not only for guitar, but for voice, piano, etc., while TAB is only for guitar and bass.) Also, theory really works its magic if you ever teach. It'll explain WHY you're doing what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Knowledge is good. Few have benefitted from ignorance, many have benefitted from education. Learn all you can, it can only help in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Larry you are a man after my heart ... I'm stealing your line , thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Nah, you don't need to know theory. Unless, of course, you want to be a good guitar player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaresz Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Theory, otherwise I feel like I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Larry you are a man after my heart ... I'm stealing your line ' date=' thanks .[/quote'] In that case, allow me to do a little rewrite. I think this flows better: "Few have benfitted from ignorance, many have benefitted from knowledge". The word "education" has the connotation of formal studies. A whole lot can be learned from experience and the school of hard knocks. As with anything, it doesn't matter whether you learn it from a teacher or on the street, as long as the lesson is learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witmer Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You can kind of break theory into sections. There's basic chord theory, and then there's reading music, all the scales and modes and stuff. Chord theory (based on the major scale) can get you at least halfway there, without needing to read music. I took lessons, because I am not a natural musician. I have friends who pick up a guitar and the coolest stuff comes out, by accident. They can play any song they've ever heard, without even knowing for sure what key its in. This drives me crazy. I sweat blood for everything. But chord theory is all I have, and it's worked well enough that I've never pushed through the "pain" of learning more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I would *like* to learn theory (I have a basic knowledge) but, after playing for over 25 years with only two or three years of lessons early on, I feel like an old dog and don't think I would have the time or patience to learn at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmand18 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Theory. Hands-down. It may seem boring, but most of the elite guitar players that we all idolize tend to know a heck of a lot of theory (more than we realize and more than they care to admit). It's not all about just "ripping," becoming famous, getting rich, and playing on stage at MSG one day. At the end of the day, to be successful at composition, you'll need to learn some theory. Also, while I agree that tabs are extremely crude, I also think that they are a necessary evil. Within minutes, you can find the tab to just about any song on the internet. It makes learning new music very quick and easy... (which, by the way is easier if you understand theory). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elessar820 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I took lessons as a kid then quit, learned how to read music pretty well and how to play music I had no interest in. I picked up guitar again at 18, learned the basics from friends and tabs and am having way more fun with it. I can't read a note anymore and feel I am better than I was. I hardly consider myself a musician, but I do consider myself a guitar player. Am I great? Not at all, but I feel I'm halfway decent and most importantly, I enjoy myself. I have the utmost respect for musicians and people who are better than I am, but I'd rather learn how to play songs I like and write some music and have fun with it than frustrate myself trying to relearn the theory and stuff I used to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Back in my day I made a goodly pile of cash working as a studio musician. Had I not known theory (since half the time we didn't have a clue what we were going to play & almost none of it was charted out) I would have never been called back a 2nd time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 http://www.zentao.com/guitar/theory/ this is a good website for good theory for people that already know guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You guys ever see The Matrix? The part where Neo's sitting, they stick a needle in the back of his head and they upload Kung Fu directly into his brain... ...if I could do that with music theory, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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