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I like Angus alot, AND Malcomb. Don't forget who the riffmeister is...

They are a team, Angus alone would not be the same.

 

The Angus Signature is typical, overpriced unless you HAVE to have that neck profile.

 

This is close enough to an Angus Signature for me - third one, with Maestro;

 

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If they're doing another tour, go see 'em if you can.

They sound VERY GOOD live, better than most bands, considering how raw their albums are.

Not as loud as you might guess either, that probably helps them keep it under control.

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did any one hear ac dc is starting a 17 month tour around the world

and there coming to edmonton......angus rocks

 

You've probably heard of their new album coming out, too? It's rumored to be called "Black Ice" is scheduled to come out on my birthday, October 21st +:-@ . I'm definately going to see them live, and buy the album.

 

Oh, and about the Angus sig., while I haven't tried one out in person, I think I'd like the neck profile of it. I tried a '61 RI recently, and it felt perfect, so I imagine that the Angus sig. neck will be even better (maybe a tad too thin).

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I do indeed like ac/dc .Its my all time favorite act.I am sure the angus signature guitar is great as well,but it is indeed overpriced like all signature stuff due to the name attached to it.

I read they are taking volunteers to shoot a video in London tommorow I think.

Sadly ,they are getting up there in age and with their high energy rock I wonder how much longer they will be performing live.So if they come anywheres near me this tour,I will definatley do what I can to see them one more time.I've seen them only one time before back in the upper 80's around who made who time.They just blew all the other bands away that night,in my opinion of course.They are an excellent live band.The energy that come off of them is amazing.

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I can understand why the SG is associated with Angus, but do any of you know anyone else who uses the SG almost exclusively? (I know Townshend did back in the day, but I mean now) Also, if I may add, Angus is a great player, but he is HIGHLY overrated.

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I can understand why the SG is associated with Angus' date=' but do any of you know anyone else who uses the SG almost exclusively? (I know Townshend did back in the day, but I mean now) Also, if I may add, Angus is a great player, but he is HIGHLY overrated. [/quote']

 

He's over rated in terms of technical skills maybe ,but when it comes to playing with energy,feeling,and attitude,no one comes close.

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Angus is a great player' date=' but he is HIGHLY overrated. [/quote']

Yeah, we start this "my guitar hero is better than your guitar hero" and the logic leaves in a hurry.

I never thought I would put Angus in a contest against another guitarist, I'm content to enjoy what he's done for 25 years without chasing trends or following fashion.

I'll even concede all AC/DC sounds the same. I would say they have a very distinctive sound.

 

Meaty, tasty, chunky, bluesy guitar licks with a great honest tone - he uses no effects at all in his signal.

Malmsteen, EVH, and all the shredmeisters bore me.

Many of the "respected" guitarists leave me cold.

 

Gimme some blues, and as Angus said to quote Sammy Davis Jr. (?)....

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing."

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Yeah' date=' we start this "my guitar hero is better than your guitar hero" and the logic leaves in a hurry.

I never thought I would put Angus in a contest against another guitarist, I'm content to enjoy what he's done for 25 years without chasing trends or following fashion.

I'll even concede all AC/DC sounds the same. I would say they have a very distinctive sound.

 

Meaty, tasty, chunky, bluesy guitar licks with a great honest tone - he uses no effects at all in his signal.

Malmsteen, EVH, and all the shredmeisters bore me.

Many of the "respected" guitarists leave me cold.

 

Gimme some blues, and as Angus said to quote Sammy Davis Jr. (?)....

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing."[/quote']

 

Well said, that's exactly what I think. The thing about Angus is that he plays with more emotion than any other guitarist, WHILE running around the stage and putting on a show for the audience. Sure, there're loads of other guitarists that play with emotion, too, but I have yet to see someone connect with their music that way.

 

I think Angus and Malcolm do a great job in the guitars-department, but let's not forget the rest of the band, either! AC/DC and Thin Lizzy are the reasons I started playing guitar at all, and watching a performance by either band just gives me more motivation...

 

Oh, and you who think all their songs sound the same. Have you even listened to some other songs than "Back in Black", "Highway to Hell" and "Thunderstruck"? I can agree that their most known songs (e.g. radio hits) might sound a bit alike, but the reason they became hits at all is because you can feel that those songs are genuine AC/DC. Try steering away from the most known albums, give "High Voltage", "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap", "Powerage" and "Flick Of The Switch" a listen, and you will see that AC/DC isn't all about the hits they play on the radio.

 

Sorry for the long rant, had nothing better to do :-({|=

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"High Voltage"' date=' "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap", "Powerage" [/quote']

That's the trifecta!

Powerage is my all time favorite.

The other two are great, raw, gritty albums, but it all seemed to come together on Powerage.

The blues start to really shine thru in a way only they can do it, the songs had a little more polish.

They no longer sounded so much like a garage band.

 

I did not hear Powerage for a couple years after it came out, I was still in school and a few friends had heard it and told me it was okay, but don't bother. I never heard any of the songs on the radio, so why think different?

 

I loved Highway to Hell, but grew tired of Back in Black due to overexposure.

I was wishing for more of the Highway groove from them, a friend of mine said "yeah, or Powerage..."

 

"Yeah? So is that album any good or what?" I asked.

 

Buddy of mine looked at me in disbelief and said "If you like Highway, how can you NOT like Powerage?"

 

"I never heard it."

 

You're sh!tting me!"

 

"Uh, no."

 

Well, then and there I got my Powerage lesson, and it was like finding the Holy Grail.

Still my favorite AC/DC album almost 30 years later.

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When I say that Angus Young is overrated, I'm not taking any shots at his skill, both technically and showmanship. What I mean was that how a lot of people hold him as the "Standard" guitarist, the guitarist that every other guitarist should be compared to, and I don't think that's good. You ask all the young kids and they'll hold Angus as a god, but they'll have no idea who Eric Clapton, David Gilmour, or Gary Moore is. People just over expose Angus. (Or maybe ACDC has a genius marketing team)

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And really when you think about it,don't all bands have some of that (all there songs sound similiar thing going on.)Its kinda hard for a band to make a bunch of songs and for them to not sound similiar to each other or easily distinguishable as that certain bands sound or song.Don't Van Halens songs all sound smiliar to each other,or Black sabbaths all sound similiar to each other?Soon as you hear the first few notes you can always tell who's song it was even when it was the first time you heard it.

I think AC/DC stuck to their same formula their entire career instead of changing to the fads such as Kiss when they made a disco album to try and fit in with the times.I was a loyal ac/dc fan since 1979 and I like every bit as much today.I think I hear them more on the radio now then I did then.They just have something about them as a band that most other bands don't and probably never will.

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You ask all the young kids and they'll hold Angus as a god' date=' but they'll have no idea who Eric Clapton, David Gilmour, or Gary Moore is. [/quote']

Pop culture.

AC/DC is easy for young kids to "get it" where Clapton, Gilmour and Moore are not exposed in the mainstream as much.

Few young 'uns are gonna dig for obscure music, they will grab the first fast and loud stuff they hear.

 

Clapton isn't very active now, his music is primarily on classic rock stations that the "old guys" listen to.

Without mass media exposure, they will have no idea who David Gilmour or Gary Moore is.

 

Shameful, I'll admit.

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I think if you ask the kids, they won't know who Angus is either. Shoot, I'm in my early 30s and AC/DC was before my time as well.

 

That said, I love them now, and love Angus' playing. He rocks, and that's all I care about. Being fun to watch doesn't hurt. I love the solo from "Thunderstruck".

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I can understand why the SG is associated with Angus
How many times have you been at a music store and you or someone else grabs an SG and starts playing an AC/DC tune? Its almost like you have to if you pick one up!
Posted
I like Angus alot' date=' AND Malcomb. Don't forget who the riffmeister is...

They are a team, Angus alone would not be the same.

 

The Angus Signature is typical, overpriced unless you HAVE to have that neck profile.

 

This is close enough to an Angus Signature for me - third one, with Maestro;

 

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If they're doing another tour, go see 'em if you can.

They sound VERY GOOD live, better than most bands, considering how raw their albums are.

Not as loud as you might guess either, that probably helps them keep it under control.

i love Maestros. how does it play. Im thinking about getting a Gibson SG but i really have to have a trem. Anybody know where to get replacement maestros???

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I love the Maestro too, plays like any other SG 61 but with a string-slacking option.

I know that sounds trite and simplistic, but it really is transparent on the guitar.

Tuning is good (better than a Strat) but travel is limited, so it's a trade-off.

No dive bombing here, just subtle wavering effect.

 

If you already own an SG and want to refit it, that's a problem.

The woodwork and machining is completely different, a Maestro is not a bolt-on thing.

There are aftermarket ones, I forget who makes them, that will work with TOM posts but I find them less than ideal.

On a painted body you could drill and fill and paint to cover it all up, but finding a real deal Maestro is gonna be $$$$.

 

I suggest watching Ebay and such, these guitars pop up now and then despite their relative rarity.

Mine was one of only 48 made in 2006, my dealer had 4 of them.

 

I did not set out to find one, I walked into the store one day and there they were!

DOH!!!

 

Now and then, even a blind squirrel gets a nut.

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Think it would be worth the extra 300 dollars to get the Angus young sg instead of the 61? i do love the sound of the Humbuckers in it.

 

 

I think probably.As long as you don't mind the angus stuff on it

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Think it would be worth the extra 300 dollars to get the Angus young sg instead of the 61? i do love the sound of the Humbuckers in it.

 

Now remember that if you want an SG with a Maestro on it, you can find amazing Custom Shop models that are made in exact specs of the vintage models. But if you like the Angus Signature as a whole, than I guess you can be happy with that.

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The Standard and Custom on the Custom website are both the VOS finish.

I personally wouldn't pay for it, contrived wear, tear and ugliness....

 

If I bought one, I wonder how much it would cost to pull all the hardware and replace it with new pieces that LOOK new?

Maybe sell all the VOS stuff to somebody wanting to install mojo on their SG...

 

Yeah, I'd keep watching Ebay for a nice used one...

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Now remember that if you want an SG with a Maestro on it' date=' you can find amazing Custom Shop models that are made in exact specs of the vintage models. But if you like the Angus Signature as a whole, than I guess you can be happy with that. [/quote']

 

I wouldn't exactly call the Custom/Historic SG's either "amazing" OR "made in the exact specs". OK, the first may be subject to personal opinion, but we know that it's a 'different strokes...' issue. And the "specs" are questionable at best. Now I'm not one of those freaks who whine about the control layout being a couple millimeters off or historically incorrect potentiometers, but it's very obvious to a former owner and continued fan of the '61 to early '66 originals that Gibson's reissues aren't close. They need to adjust the outline shape, get the bevels angled deeper, taper those horn tips' thickness (from a body depth perspective) and for Pete's sake GET THE COLOR RIGHT. And I won't even get into the aesthetics of the overtly thin (cough--cheap--cough) finishes that sink into the woodgrain immediately and don't hold a mirror gloss like their ancestors. And I'll be da---...um...ok, I simply refuse to buy a pre-aged guitar with messed up hardware. That's MY job. I didn't ever buy the "pre-distressed" jeans from the GAP, and the same goes for my SG's...but I digress. If someone's never held an original, the Historics might be the best thing in the world, and there are some (admittedly NOT SG "Fundamentalists" like myself) who HAVE seen a couple originals and still hold a certain regard for the reissues, but I've got a photo collection of a few hundred originals that can prove they've got a little tweaking to do before I can ever use the word "amazing" and DEFINITELY before I can use the phrase "made in the exact specs" of the original guitars.

 

I own the Angus model, a 2001 (I think) '61 RI with Maestro and the infamous custom ordered Historic Standard (had to pay a pretty penny to get a more authentic blood red color and better attention to tapering of the horns, although to me I still think the outline is a little too "top horn heavy" compared to the originals), as well as the limited edition "1965 G-400" model Epiphone. I personally think they're all good guitars, and I think the Angus is my favorite to play live because it's balanced feeling and simply SCREAMS with a cutting tone that is all its own. I upgraded the Historic to a set of Burstbucker Pros, and it too is a much better guitar for it. Not that there's anything wrong with the '61 RI by any means, the '57 Classics in it are fine, just not as personable as the BB Pros or the Angus pickup. If you REALLY are going to abuse the tremelo, I recommend getting a roller-saddle ABR for it though, that'll help you get more range (and even more stability with tuning). That and Grover tuners made my Angus into a not only a killer looking guitar, but a reliable workhorse as well! I'm still wondering if they're ever going to add a late-60's style Historic Standard to the SG collection, but then again I would rather see them fix the inadequacies of their early/mid 60's reissues first.

 

H-Bomb

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