blacksmith Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm looking at a 2001 58 reissue Authentic Historic Les Paul in Butterscotch. The guy I'm trying to buy from said it is a much better guitar than the, as he said "new cookie cutter VOS reissues". He said it does not come with a COA as they didn't give them with the guitars back then. My questions: -Did they give COA's with these guitars? -Are they better built guitars than the new reissue VOS series guitars. I have a 2010 Lemonburst 58 reissue and I like it. -What should this guitar have with it to identify it as a custom shop reissue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Well, according to the 'Historic Changes year-by-year' sticky the COA's came in in 1999... http://forum.gibson....change-history/ As far as the 'How good is it?' part; all Les Pauls are different, as you must already know. Only by playing it can you tell if it's one you think is good. Your likes are individual and unique to you. I've played some very ordinary re-issues and I've played a very few outstanding examples. Others might have felt the opposite to be the case in every err, case.... P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 So, this could be a 2001 without a COA?.......I'd hate to buy a fake..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 A COA or lack of one doesn't mean the guitar is real or fake. Post pictures of it and someone will tell you if it's real/fake. There were less of them made in 2001 compared to today but that doesn't mean it's going to be a better guitar. It will certainly be less accurate than a new one (if that matters to you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StijnV Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 In 2001 we started issuing COA's on a regular basis. The custom authentic line that was introduced in 2001 did not have the Plek treatment with which we started for every custom shop guitar, Memphis and Nashville, in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Here is the ebay auction link......it appears to be real, though, I'm not sure, the guy is just a little brief trying to make a fast sale when I talk with him, that and the lack of a COA concerned me....... http://cgi.ebay.com/...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franzi Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It does look genuine to me. Serial is registered in Gibson's database for a 1958 Les Paul Reissue AA Figure / Butterscotch / Nickel made in 2001. But if you have a dodgy feeling, there might be something dodgy, you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thanks for looking it up! I feel better about it now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swleary Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 If you still feel odd about it then please, send it to me and I can verify it. Please expect it back when I'm done ( which would be never ) lol Looks legit to me too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Ok! I'll buy it and give your address so it can be sent right to you for inspection..........................................................or, maybe not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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