miurasv Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I've been offered an unused HC Standard that what must be from 2007 with the Kluson tuners. Are the new chambered ones much better or is the 07 model better? Is the 07 model more similar in spec to the Traditional which is cheaper than the new Standard as he states the comparative new price as for that of the Standard that has Locking Grovers. Would the new price of an 07 model Standard, if it was still being made, be more comparable with the Traditional than that of the more expensive Standard? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enmitygauged Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I've been offered an unused HC Standard that what must be from 2007 with the Kluson tuners. Are the new chambered ones much better or is the 07 model better? Is the 07 model more similar in spec to the Traditional which is cheaper than the new Standard as he states the comparative new price as for that of the Standard that has Locking Grovers. Would the new price of an 07 model Standard, if it was still being made, be more comparable with the Traditional than that of the more expensive Standard? Thanks in advance. I have a 2010 version of the 08 Standard. I had a 2008 Traditional I found the main difference between the two was weight and the Pick ups. The Chambering doesnt do anything to the tone of the guitar at all IMHO. My 2008 is the guitar I have been looking for for years. Yes I think the Nutrijack (or what ever its called) is a bit of over kill and damn right annoying in some ways but besides that its amazing. The 57's on a Trad are a bit more fuzzy compared with the brightness hi gain of the BB Pro's The Standard has always been more expensive than the Traditional at least as far as I know. As much as I get the historicity of the tuners on a Trad I dont personally like em I find they break too easily were as the nickle coated Standard last forever. Basically dont let the Chambering of a 2008 Standard put you off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 My 2007 Standard is chambered, and yours could be too. The new Standards have locking tuners, locking bridge, strap locks, and jack locks. They also come with a new neck profile. The 2008s have some nice features that the 07s don't. If I was going to buy an unused 2007, it would have to be much cheaper than a new 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enmitygauged Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 My 2007 Standard is chambered, and yours could be too. The new Standards have locking tuners, locking bridge, strap locks, and jack locks. They also come with a new neck profile. The 2008s have some nice features that the 07s don't. If I was going to buy an unused 2007, it would have to be much cheaper than a new 2010. You got strap locks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miurasv Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 My 2007 Standard is chambered, and yours could be too. The new Standards have locking tuners, locking bridge, strap locks, and jack locks. They also come with a new neck profile. The 2008s have some nice features that the 07s don't. If I was going to buy an unused 2007, it would have to be much cheaper than a new 2010. The seller who is private and not a dealer told me that the unused Standard was an 08 but as it has the old style Kluson tuners it can't be. He says it's completely unplayed in HCS and wants £1450 GBP. I think you can get a brand new 2010 for £1700 and a Traditional, which the older model is closer in spec to, for about £1500 GBP so £1450 doesn't seem like good value for a guitar that must be from 2007 and may be older, albeit allegedly unused. What do you think it's worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Even if the guitar was made in 2008, if it doesn't have the locking tuners, bridge, and jack, its not an 08 Standard. Also, if its from a private seller and not a dealer, being "unplayed" doesn't matter. Even if it has not been touched by human hands since it left the factory, its still a used guitar. I bought my 07 Standard new, with warranty from a dealer after the 08s already came out. I bought it because it had a maple neck, and was on clearance for more than $800 less than a new (2008) Standard. I paid $1580 USD. I don't know what the market for used Gibsons is like in England, but personally, I wouldn't buy a used 07 unless it was WAY cheaper than an 08. The 07s are going to fall between the cracks because they are chambered unlike the 06s, but lack the features of the 08s. It sounds to me like this guy is trying to sell a used guitar for the price of a new one. Low ball him. If he doesn't want to play, walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 You got strap locks? I have a 2007, so I had to buy and install the strap locks myself. I assumed that the 08s came with strap locks since everything else is locking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zummooz Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I also have a 2007 (non chambered) & it is absolutely beautiful, my trusty guitar, considering I have a Dark Fire as well. The Burstbucker pro pickups are tops ! My 2cents Why dose everyone seem to worry about strap locks Just install yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Why can't people admit their 2007 & newer LPs are chambered? Are you ashamed or something? Just because it's 8.5 lbs "it can't be chambered"? I guess my old 2007 LP Custom didn't have swiss cheese holes because it was a whopping 10lb and anything that heavy must be solid. Yes, yes, I think I'm right; no, I know I'm right. Despite the fact that everyone says they are and that even Gibson's website says they have a weight-relieved bodies, mine was surely solid. Prove otherwise. OK, I'm done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Why can't people admit their 2007 & newer LPs are chambered? Are you ashamed or something? Just because it's 8.5 lbs "it can't be chambered"? I guess my old 2007 LP Custom didn't have swiss cheese holes because it was a whopping 10lb and anything that heavy must be solid. Yes, yes, I think I'm right; no, I know I'm right. Despite the fact that everyone says they are and that even Gibson's website says they have a weight-relieved bodies, mine was surely solid. Prove otherwise. OK, I'm done... What difference does it make as long as you like it? Regards, Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I don't think that anyone is ashamed of their chambered guitars here, R9. I never said that the 07s were not sweet guitars, I just think they are a transitional model between two styles, so resale may be lower than an 06 or an 08. If you don't want a chambered LP, there are many models that are not chambered. My intention was not to start a chambered-weight relief-solid debate. This argument has been kicked to death for years, and everyone knows which models from which years are chambered, solid, or Swiss cheesed. My point was that the 07 which is the topic of this thread is probably chambered and not solid as the seller suggests. It is also overpriced for a used Gibson. I bought my 2007 because it was chambered, had a maple neck, and was cheap. I wanted a 335, but like the style of the LP, and wanted a maple neck, so the clearance priced, chambered Blonde Beauty was a godsend for me. I used the money that I saved to upgrade tuners, strap locks, pups, caps, and pots. It is my favorite Gibson that I have ever owned, and is my #1 by far, so I am not bashing 07s or chambered guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I also have a 2007 (non chambered) & it is absolutely beautiful, my trusty guitar, considering I have a Dark Fire as well. The Burstbucker pro pickups are tops ! My 2cents Why dose everyone seem to worry about strap locks Just install yourself. If you have a 2007 Gibson USA Standard it is chambered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zummooz Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 OK thanks guys I was always under the impression it wasn't, thanks for clarification on this. Doesn't worry me thou, it's still a little beauty my 2007 LP, It's my baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enmitygauged Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I have a 2007, so I had to buy and install the strap locks myself. I assumed that the 08s came with strap locks since everything else is locking. Nope no strap locks with mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe823 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I just received a 2010 Standard GT from Musicians Friend and no strap locks on mine either. They also don't appear in the pictures or the specs from the MF site. On the other hand, American Musical Supply shows Duncan strap locks and says they're included. Funny thing, I received mine by mistake. Last week MF had a Used Level 1 Standard Traditional GT for $1399, which I jumped on. However when I opened the box upon receiving it, lo and behold they sent me a pricier Standard. Love it but was wondering about the strap locks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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