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Pennyman

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i searched "epiphone gray case" and...uh oh

 

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i guess it would fit in with their thowback tailpieces. but... [thumbdn]

 

Okay ...

 

1. What is this?

2. Why don't I own one?

3. Is this a single pickup guitar, and, if so, why does it have to many knobs and switches?

 

Jim

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It's Epi's version of the Minarik Nitecrawler.

Definitely. [thumbup]

YES.

 

Yes, it could be a Caiola, which started out as something like a Casino (hollow) but with mini-humbuckers (later models would get P-90's).

Red 333

 

That picture posted by cunningham26 is a Professional, not a Caiola. (And if you didn't know that was an Epiphone Professional, now you do! [lol]) This is a Caiola:

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YES.

 

 

 

That picture posted by cunningham26 is a Professional, not a Caiola. (And if you didn't know that was an Epiphone Professional, now you do! [lol]) This is a Caiola:

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Hungrycat, the picture of the Sheraton made the Caiola pop into my head (great picture by the way). Even though CB had speculated about an original spec Riviera (which would also have the mini humbuckers), it was the PICTURE of them on the Sheraton that made me think of the Caiola, and sort of exclaim "yes," since I wouldn't mind seeing a follow body with mini humbuckers. The Caiola came in several trim levels, but none were as fancy as the the Sherri.

 

I don't really think Epiphone would reintroduce the Caiola to 1960's specs, since they' have to tool up to reproduce that control panel and all the switches, and since it's not just a simple variation of stuff they already use, that seems like it would add a lot of extra cost. I CERTAINLY wouldn't think Epiphone would reintroduce the Professional, LOL! What would THAT cost today?

 

For those of you haven't seen one, the Proessional was a guitar made to work with a matching amp. All the controls for the amp are built into the guitar, which explains all those fiddly knobs. I didn't watch the video above, so apologies if it explains that.

 

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Hungrycat, the picture of the Sheraton made the Caiola pop into my head (great picture by the way). Even though CB had speculated about an original spec Riviera (which would also have the mini humbuckers), it was the PICTURE of them on the Sheraton that made me think of the Caiola, and sort of exclaim "yes," since I wouldn't mind seeing a follow body with mini humbuckers. The Caiola came in several trim levels, but none were as fancy as the the Sherri.

 

I don't really think Epiphone would reintroduce the Caiola to 1960's specs, since they' have to tool up to reproduce that control panel and all the switches, and since it's not just a simple variation of stuff they already use, that seems like it would add a lot of extra cost. I CERTAINLY wouldn't think Epiphone would reintroduce the Professional, LOL! What would THAT cost today?

 

For those of you haven't seen one, the Proessional was a guitar made to work with a matching amp. All the controls for the amp are built into the guitar, which explains all those fiddly knobs. I didn't watch the video above, so apologies if it explains that.

 

Red 333

 

Yeah, I just thought of the "Original Spec" (Kalamazoo era) Riviera, because we've been hounding them, to make one, and they don't currently have one, in their line...at least here, in the States.

So...??? Time will tell. ;>)

 

CB

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Yeah, I just thought of the "Original Spec" (Kalamazoo era) Riviera, because we've been hounding them, to make one, and they don't currently have one, in their line...at least here, in the States.

So...??? Time will tell. ;>)

 

CB

 

Well, since you have that beautiful "USA" Sheraton with mini hums, it makes sense that you'd want to see a Riviera with them--you wouldn't need another Sheri. That way, you could add to your collection without having any duplicates, technically speaking.

 

I think a 1960's spec Sheraton or Riviera are the most likely suspects to be in that case (easy to manufacture/lots of interest), followed by the McCartney Casino (strong brand equity in that one, if they can work out the endorsement), but let's not rule out a single cutaway model, like the Sorento, either. In any case (pardon the pun), Epi's coming out with some really interesting and welcome models.

 

Over on the Gibson CEO forum, Epi1 did hint at the possibility of the McCartney Casino in 2011, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed (even though I need ANOTHER Casino like I need a hole in the head (I have three). You would be in the same boat, too, though.

 

Would the Gibson-esque headstock and Bigsby (and McCartney association) be enough to justify YET ANOTHER one? I for one, don't think I could resist, especially if the price was more on the Inspired by side, vs. the numbered edition "USA" 1965/Revolution side (though I would prefer to see a McCartney Casino made with that high level of craftsmanship and materials--I just don't want to pay for it, LOL!).

 

 

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Is it a good business move to split the people that would be buying higher end/artist casinos? If I were calling the shots (soon, soon) I'd try to get people to buy the casino AND a 60s spec riv/sherrie.

 

*note huge bias because im reallllly hoping its a sherrie/riv

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What would the differences be with a McCartney Casino vs. Lennon other than

perhaps left handed?

 

LOL, that would upset all the right handers who've never listened to the lefties complaining of a particular model only available as RH.

 

It might limit Epiphone's sales, but it would keep it exclusive msp_thumbup.gif.

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LOL, that would upset all the right handers who've never listened to the lefties complaining of a particular model only available as RH.

 

It might limit Epiphone's sales, but it would keep it exclusive msp_thumbup.gif.

 

Technically McCartney's was a right-handed model. Like most guitars he owned back then, Macca had to fix it up himself so he could play it lefty. How funny would it be if Epiphone released a righty model strung lefty as the McCartney signature?

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What would the differences be with a McCartney Casino vs. Lennon other than

perhaps left handed?

 

Macca's has a different headstock shape, closer to a Gibson, but not exactly.

It was before Epi went to the hour-glass type headstock design, on the Lennon

(and Harrison) versions, which is what's on them, today. I think Keith Richards,

has a Casino, like Macca's, with that old headstock shape, as well.

 

CB

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I think Keith Richards, has a Casino, like Macca's, with that old headstock shape, as well.

 

CB

 

And Keith's has the Epiphone vibrato on it (the Tremotone with the wooden cover, above) instead of the Bigsby.

 

Cool pics, Pete and SuperSonic!

 

Pete, since the Tremotone is being used on the new Wilshire reissue, you can certainly make the case that a Casino with Tremotone is what's in the grey reissue case. Is that what you're saying? The guitar in your pic looks like has a poly finish, like a new Epi would have...

 

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