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i would love to own a 336, i have read about it over the internets and dream of how it would vibrate. I have not yet played one, no Gibson dealers within 75 mile radius. I played a 335 in college and could really tell the difference between a 335 and the Epiphone Wildcat. I got rid of the Wildcat, vibrated like plastic instead of rich wood tone.

 

Heres my question ... what other guitars would be similar to the Gibson CS336 and how would they rate in comparison.

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Here - save enough money to buy a nice tube amp, too:

 

http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=sh445

 

thats my ultimate setup is a 336 with a small tube amp, i like the Peavey Classic 30, so far i am not working and cant justify, but... when i do start gigging, i will have to make a $3500 loan for the setup... i am looking at the alternatives, but in the end, my eye is set on the 336, i hope it plays as well as it advertises on the internet, the pizza at the drive in movies always let me down. Now i am playing a Crafter CT125. Sure wish someone would make me a bombshell of a deal on a 336.

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While you are in the "looking" stage, try an Epi Casino and especially the Epi Blues Custom 30 amp. A very over looked amp that has the features and tone you may be looking for. The Casino will be a lot like the 336 except for the pickups. To me the best sounding amps are always the Class A ones.

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Well.....um....except for the fact that the Casino is a full hollowbody guitar, and pretty much a totally different animal.

 

Sorry about that, I had my new Casino on the brain. I meant Epi Dot. The Sheraton II is another less expensive one to try.

Both the Sheraton and the Casino are a lot of guitar for the money although I prefer the 336.

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Sorry about that, I had my new Casino on the brain. I meant Epi Dot. The Sheraton II is another less expensive one to try.

Both the Sheraton and the Casino are a lot of guitar for the money although I prefer the 336.

 

I was turned off to Epiphone by the Wildcat, it was an alright guitar, but it wasnt anything like a real 335. The thing that gravitates me towards the 336 is the carved out body, i would think it has its own sustain signature, i understand the LPs are now carved out as well, a hollowed out les paul may be the closest thing to a 336 ? sure wish we had more gibson dealers.

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I was turned off to Epiphone by the Wildcat, it was an alright guitar, but it wasnt anything like a real 335. The thing that gravitates me towards the 336 is the carved out body, i would think it has its own sustain signature, i understand the LPs are now carved out as well, a hollowed out les paul may be the closest thing to a 336 ? sure wish we had more gibson dealers.

 

I can understand that. I also was turned off by the Wildcat. Yes the Chambered reissue Les Paul are real close to a 336 but still an expensive Custom Shop model. (there were chambered Les Pauls well before the 336 came out) The chambered Gibson USA and the Epi Les Pauls just don't sound the same or have the feel that the Custom Shop does. None of the chambered Les Pauls sound close to a 336 although a Custom Shop chambered reissue Les Paul is the closest. You would spend about the same money on a new Custom Shop Les Paul as you would for a new 336. A 339 is a less expensive Custom Shop model that will be the closest sounding and maybe more importantly, look like a 336. I bet you are not going to be happy until you get a 336. I have seen some "new" ones on ebay going for abut the price of a 339. By new I mean that the seller is not a Gibson dealer although the guitar has not been used, but you do not get the factory warranty. The only model real close to the 336 would be the Johnny A.

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the Johnny A, Pat Martino, 336 and 356 ... of these guitars, which are hollowbody and which are semi-hollow ?

 

This question is trickier than it might seem. The CS-336 and CS-356 are technically "Archtops" in Gibson nomenclature rather than "Semi-hollows" since the tops and backs are carved from solid woods rather than molded from plywoods like they are on the ES-335 and ES-339. But the 336 and 356 models do have a centerblock inside: part of it's wood is from the back (it's part of the same slab of wood), and there's as I understand it a smaller "key" block that is connected to the top, with the two parts locking together like puzzle pieces during assembly.

 

The Johnny A is technically an archtop too I believe... but it doesn't have as large a center block. If I remember correctly, it just has a small block inside to support the bridge. Another difference: the inside back of the Johnny A is flat, but on the 336 & 356 it's carved to match the outside contour.

 

I *think* the Pat Martino is constructed like the 336/356, with a center block... but I'm not positive. That one has (I believe) a rear-access panel to get at the controls, a bit like an LP. None of the others do - access inside is through the pickup routes or F-holes.

 

If I'm right about the Pat Martino, then the Johnny A is the most hollow, with the others being more like the ES semi-hollows in terms of how much wood and air is inside.

 

Confused yet? :rolleyes:

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This question is trickier than it might seem. The CS-336 and CS-356 are technically "Archtops" in Gibson nomenclature rather than "Semi-hollows" since the tops and backs are carved from solid woods ...If I'm right about the Pat Martino, then the Johnny A is the most hollow, with the others being more like the ES semi-hollows in terms of how much wood and air is inside.

 

Confused yet? :rolleyes:

 

great answer Clayville ... what is confusing is reading about the different guitars on the internets ... i do understand semi-hollow (335) sustain ... that block of wood makes all the difference in the world... i am eliminating the Johnny A from my wants list, not that there is anything wrong with a hollowbody, its just not the sound i am looking for...

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i am eliminating the Johnny A from my wants list, ...

 

lol, i quote myself, i never even heard of no Johnny A. (Anthropologist) ... you guys showed me a new guitar player, i have to say, if i could get his sound, i would get that guitar, even tho its a hollow body. i do like the bigsby. *** puts it back on list.

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