crust Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 and I don't have any extra 9's 10's or 11's. I had to play my "TV" LP. It made me feel better. Junior is back in his case, waiting. What can I do to the wrap around bridge to keep the high E string from breaking ? It has broken right where the built in "saddle" is on the chrome wrap around tail piece. A little emery cloth or steel wool ? Suggestions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If you have any nut files, you could file a little groove in the saddle. Just be careful to put the groove exactly where you want it becasue it's impossible to undo. In the meantime, throw a 17 on there - it won't hurt anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewblue Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 SRV's tech used to strip the insulation off some thin wire (18 to 24 ga) and slip it over the new string and let it sit where the string passed over the saddle. each piece should be only 1/8 to 1/4in.long. it's supposed to prevent breakage under heavy playing. give it a try. trew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 SRV's tech used to strip the insulation off some thin wire (18 to 24 ga) and slip it over the new string and let it sit where the string passed over the saddle. each piece should be only 1/8 to 1/4in.long. it's supposed to prevent breakage under heavy playing. give it a try. trew I have a very small diameter piece of heat shrink tubeing. I wonder if putting that on, then shrinking it around the string (just a very small piece, near the saddle) will work ? Hmm. I'll get back to you later this week.. Small dia, thin walled plastic wire insulation too. That sounds like a great idea actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'd look real close at that saddle, run your finger over it. If there's ANY kind of sharp edge on the it I'd maybe try a little sandpaper folded in half and see if you can smooth it up. Don't take much off, just get it so there's not a sharp edge for the string to "bend" too sharply over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I put one of these on my latest Jr. An inexpensive and direct replacement. Faded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Or you could get a bridge that ACTUALLY INTONATES! *gasp* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amx05462 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 im pretty sure that those are just a cating and if they didnt properly buff and debur it thhat is probably what is wrong. as stated before run your finger over it if it feels sharp then use a piece of emery paper. or very fine sandpaper and just hit it enough to remove the burr. i had one of those . piece of crap. i bought an intonatable bridge off ebay for 20 bucks. big improvement. slightly different but similar to the one posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 slightly different but similar to the one posted Yeah that's for illustrative purposes only. It's a Schaller that costs more than an Epi LPJr does in the first place. You can pick up an off-brand that's just as good for not a lot of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalrulez Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Guitar fetish has a wraparound bridge for 29 and some change.They even sell a zig zag wraparound if you prefer that style of bridge.My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karine_plays Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 it broke for the second time ...ever? :unsure: How long have you had it? Maybe change your strings more often, they tend to break when they begin to rust after a few months. Also, lets see the break angle on that bridge (pic please), I had mine at too much of an angle and kept breaking strings at the bridge. Changed the angle and it's all fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeladdie Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If you're using D'Addario strings, they have been having problems with E strings breaking. I had a few let go just above the ball end, and when I queried D'A about it, they asked for the package code from the inside plastic liner. They wound up sending me a 10-pack of new E strings, might be some sort of manufacturing defect somewhere.... HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadedbat Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 SRV's tech used to strip the insulation off some thin wire (18 to 24 ga) and slip it over the new string and let it sit where the string passed over the saddle. each piece should be only 1/8 to 1/4in.long. it's supposed to prevent breakage under heavy playing. give it a try. trew I have a very small diameter piece of heat shrink tubeing. I wonder if putting that on, then shrinking it around the string (just a very small piece, near the saddle) will work ? Hmm. I'll get back to you later this week.. Small dia, thin walled plastic wire insulation too. That sounds like a great idea actually. Here's a shot of SRV's setup.. :) The tubing used on a Fender trem w/saddle mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Or you could get a bridge that ACTUALLY INTONATES! *gasp* I like that. allparts.com I will check it out. I did use a little "Simichrome" (metal polish) and a "Q-Tip" and smoothed out the saddle a little. I played the guitar for an hour or so last night. So far so good. I'm using "9's" on this particular guitar, "10's" on the "TV". http://www.amazon.com/Simichrome-CN-520-103-SIMICHROME-SIMICROME-POLISH-TUBE/dp/B000BGOC0W This stuff is good for a lot of things (polishing out scratches and scuffs) The insulation and heat shrink tube method deadened the sound of the string, not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 If you're using D'Addario strings, they have been having problems with E strings breaking. I had a few let go just above the ball end, and when I queried D'A about it, they asked for the package code from the inside plastic liner. They wound up sending me a 10-pack of new E strings, might be some sort of manufacturing defect somewhere.... HTH Interesting. I do use D'Addario strings. On this particular guitar, when I changed out the high "E" string and polished the saddle, I used a Ernie Ball string as a replacement. It hasn't broken (yet). I wonder what Epiphone uses for strings on the new guitars they manufacture. Their own ? If not, what manufacturer ? I will ask in a separate post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 it broke for the second time ...ever? :unsure: How long have you had it? Maybe change your strings more often, they tend to break when they begin to rust after a few months. Also, lets see the break angle on that bridge (pic please), I had mine at too much of an angle and kept breaking strings at the bridge. Changed the angle and it's all fixed. Two strings broke over the course of about an hour (half hour each). Not good. The new high "E" (Ernie Ball) has lasted an hour, not bad. I would take a picture of the "break angle". I think that is the angle fron where the strings wrap around to the saddle. It is set up as "standard factory". I don't think a special picture is needed. Is there a different way to wrap the strings around this bridge/saddle to change the "break angle" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Guitar fetish has a wraparound bridge for 29 and some change.They even sell a zig zag wraparound if you prefer that style of bridge.My link That "badass" bridge does look "badass". I will look into that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 That unit that GF sells looks to be pretty good! I bought an OLD (white plastic saddles!) Leon Quann from EBay ($20) and installed on my '09 Junior, made it pretty nice! WAAAAY better than the stock wrap-around. I had to fit it though, the stud spacing wasn't quite narrow enough. I'm sure it would fit on a Gibson without doing any mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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