EvanPC Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I agree with those who have stated that you should have both in your repertoire, and both are different animals. Like many others here, Fender necks are hit and miss with me. Everything from strings spacing to width, thickness, etc, bothered me. Muscle memory is a strong tool and I have a hard time shaking it when switching back and forth between my strat and LP. It's been a funny observation for me....getting a Fender was the best thing I could have done for my perception and fondness of my LP. No joke. I like the Fender, but I love the LP; and it was only after spending time with the strat that I finally started to pick up on the little nuances that make an LP an LP, and a Fender a Fender. I, for the life of me, cannot get into Tele's though. I don't like the way they look AT ALL. I know they're capable of some great "Tele tones", but I just can't disassociate them from twangy country/western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 my gibsons: That red one makes me feel tingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I have both brands. Gibson necks = way better than Fender for me. However, there is something about a Tele that is just really cool. Gotta be honest - current collection includes a Les Paul, a strat, and a tele (among others), and I would not part with any of them. However, for a non-thin sound, I am grabbing the Les Paul. I too am blessed with both brands in my collection..only a Tele sounds like a Tele.........I'm now addicted to Bigsbys...need a Tele with a Bigsby...Strats are unique as well, such a perfect design, and pretty........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny V Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 As stated previously, they are quite different sounding guitars. I have two Fender's and two Gibson's. I like and play them all for different reasons. Back in 1967 I special ordered a Telecaster which i still own today. A lot has been said regarding the Fender necks. My 67 Tele is the smoothest, fastest guitar I have ever played. My Standard LP is my favorite guitar. I prefer playing my LP because it has the sound I want and it is also a great playing guitar. Each brand has it's faithful followers. I thinks both companies have and still produce quality guitars. I also own a Fender Deluxe Reverb and a Twin Reverb amp, which I believe are two great sounding amps. Fender makes some of the best tube amps in the business. Kenny V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'll never be without a Fender - or two. That's what I started on. I've owned a bunch of Gibsons, and lean a bit that way, but Fender will always have a place in my stable. See pics in signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I love my Tele. Honestly, I dig thin tone.. It seems to have a negative connotation but I like it. When I listen to music, most of the guitar parts that I think sound really cool are the ones that sound slightly too thin or slightly too bright or slightly too weak. Those are the parts that seem to have the most character to me. My Tele is capable of sounding thick and deep. It comes easier on my SG though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I also think a Fender is a must for any clean rhythm parts I wanna do. Especially in the funk or country realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 i was gonna do a Blues Brothers reference too: "We got BOTH kinds!" i am VERY fortunate to have both kinds as well, and i like them because they sound and feel so different... my fenders: my gibsons: SWEET!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I love my Gibsons as much as the next guy, but there is something about the way a Fender sits in a track that has me frequently reaching for them while recording. Sometimes the guitar that sounds fattest on its own is not the best for a track with other instruments on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidl Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I've never owned a Fender but have played many hours on a buddy's Strat and Tele. Both American Deluxe's. I introduced him to Gibson and now he has a great Studio which has become his number one. I really like the Strat's silky Maple neck and tone. Except when the 60 cycle hum kicks in. Never warmed up to the Tele though. With a proper setup I could change my mind. A Strat will definitely be added to the family at some point. I told myself no more guitars this year. Well maybe just an Acoustic/electric. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Honestly, (and this may seem trivial) Fender makes good guitars, if they didn't they wouldn't still be around. My issue is scale length, 25.5 Vs. the standard Gibson 24.75. I like a shorter scale neck, and as far as I know(correct me if I am wrong) I have never seen a 24.75 scale fender. That and the whole bolt on Vs. set neck. I just think that Gibson's are better all the way around, at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesguitar65 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 As we all well know...the Strat and other Fenders are different animals to Gibsons A Strat can sound huge in the right hands, and feel good neck-wise and weight-wise Having 'some' of each in one's collection is the best philosophy :blink: V I agree. Choosing to play a guitar is not just about the tone of the guitar but the feel and how it plays, how it response to your playing. I don't jump on the bandwagaon on "this guitar is better than that" mentality and I think its a pointless debate if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesguitar65 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I agree with those who have stated that you should have both in your repertoire, and both are different animals. Like many others here, Fender necks are hit and miss with me. Everything from strings spacing to width, thickness, etc, bothered me. Muscle memory is a strong tool and I have a hard time shaking it when switching back and forth between my strat and LP. It's been a funny observation for me....getting a Fender was the best thing I could have done for my perception and fondness of my LP. No joke. I like the Fender, but I love the LP; and it was only after spending time with the strat that I finally started to pick up on the little nuances that make an LP an LP, and a Fender a Fender. I, for the life of me, cannot get into Tele's though. I don't like the way they look AT ALL. I know they're capable of some great "Tele tones", but I just can't disassociate them from twangy country/western. Over time as your guitar playing evolves, as everyone does, you will soon realize the more important part of the guitar is not always on how it looks, but how it sounds and plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I was in a band with a guy who did great work with a jazzmaster, flatpick and two fingerpicks. The sound he did - using his pinkie on the master volume - was as close to pedal steel as you can get without a pedal steel. But... I tried his guitar, never could get into the neck. That's my objection to Fenders - I never considered them remotely playable for me. Again, that's the muscle memory thing. As for tone... Roy Buchanan could do about anything with his Tele and make it sound good, from "Misty" to "Hey Joe." I think tone is what the picker thinks. Buchanan thought Tele variations. I think two HB variations or a certain type of sound from an A-E or classical. Buchanan certainly was a better picker than I am... but both of us do what we do because of longtime work with certain types of guitar and how our hands and heads work. It's the same with everyone, IMHO. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Honestly, (and this may seem trivial)./.. I have never seen a 24.75 scale fender. ... The Fender Strat-o-Sonic was 24.75 I always tune Fenders down 1/2 step. To me that helps the scale length/thinner tone thing. Of course if I want twang I tune it back up to standard pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 The Fender Strat-o-Sonic was 24.75 I always tune Fenders down 1/2 step. To me that helps the scale length/thinner tone thing. Of course if I want twang I tune it back up to standard pitch. Jaguar I want to say is like 24" or something like that It feels different. For some reason, to me, I feel more comfortable playing rhythm with a Gibson and humbuckers, and leads using single coil or mini humbuckers. Its probably just me, but I feel very strongly that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nathan... I wonder how many country and pop fans realize Willie Nelson has been playing both lead and rhythm with a nylon string guitar or if they just think it's "a guitar." Honestly, I think "we" think about this stuff a lot more than does an audience. Getting one's own sound isn't a specific instrument or even setting to me, but what I play for music... OTOH... when I was younger I didn't see it that way either. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Jaguar I want to say is like 24" or something like that Yep - 24" and the Music Master and Duo-Sonic were only 22.5" The Mustangs were generally 24" though some were 22.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nathan... I wonder how many country and pop fans realize Willie Nelson has been playing both lead and rhythm with a nylon string guitar or if they just think it's "a guitar." Honestly, I think "we" think about this stuff a lot more than does an audience. Getting one's own sound isn't a specific instrument or even setting to me, but what I play for music... OTOH... when I was younger I didn't see it that way either. m You need to write a book Milod...."Wise Sayings of the Musician Milod". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbreslauer Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 You need to write a book Milod.... i'm in for a copy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I dunno... The only times usually I've been called "wise" it was in reference to being a "wise guy" that has a bit of a different meaning. <chuckle> m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'm a Gibson-ophile and a Fender-ophile... The Strat, Jazzmaster and Mustang Have interesting similarities and differences To keep one amused for a long time V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Me too. Anyways, yeah I love both Fenders and Gibsons. As Mike Eldred of the Fender Custom Shop would say, " any guitarist needs many tools in his toolbox ". I can easily agree with that. I just need the versitility of having multi brands. Same goes for amps. Cause I like to play everything from soft jazz to thrash metal. I need the Strat for blues and funk, tele for country and rock, the LP for blues and HARD rock, among others. Now, if I was strictly a headbanger then I would probably go with an ESP, Jackson, Dean, or BC Rich with EMG pups into a modded JCM 800 or a Mesa ( either a Mark V or a Recto ). If I was a shredster I would go for an Ibanez, Charvel, or EBMM with wood mounted Seymours or DiMarzios into an old JMP, a JCM 800, a Mesa ( Stilleto comes to mind ), or a Peavey 5150/6505. Straight Texas blues needs a strat, an overdrive box, and a nice Vibrolux. You get the point. I need a lot. Im sure the gear gods gave me OGS-- overactive GAS syndrome. The Plexi lives on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well... Freddie King did Texas blues on Gibsons... as did a lotta other folks. Seriously, I think the guitar manufacturers and our own internal "GAS" drives a lotta this stuff. I'd be a liar if I said I'm not as afflicted today as I was in my teens and 20s and 30s - I just don't have as much disposable income for it nowadays so I think I spend my "musician" dollars more wisely. I hope so, anyway. Still, I understand the inclination, but... You like the feel of a Fender, fine. You have a guitar/pedal/amp setup that makes you happy, I'm super-happy for you and I mean that without a tinge of sarcasm. (Forums sometimes can make words seem to say what they don't.) But... the guitarist is the measure, to me, not the guitar. I think we all play a little differently on different guitar/neck shapes, but it's still the picker making the difference. The audience? I think if you play your own way, and play well and entertain a crowd you could use an acoustic through a mike and have everybody saying how innovative you are with a "new" sound we all know ain't new at all. Even tuned open and a bottleneck on occasion... Toss in a B3, bass, maybe rhythm guitar and drums... <grin> Any good player can rock... Any guitar needs the player to take it off the stand and make joyful noises... m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everett000 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 im on the fender forum. telemaster000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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