XPAULPITT Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 anyone have one of these new standards(lps or sgs) with the coil tapping. if so, do they have the circuit board pot setup or the regular pots and caps with soldered wiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 anyone have one of these new standards(lps or sgs) with the coil tapping. if so, do they have the circuit board pot setup or the regular pots and caps with soldered wiring? Yes, and circuit board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin4195 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I hate the damn circuit board, anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPAULPITT Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 I hate the damn circuit board, anyone else? Yeah, I'm not very fond of them either, although I found a place to get the little connectors to put on your pickups so that you can change pups by just plugging them right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin4195 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If I was changing the pups i'd just change out the whole circuit board for the traditional 4x500k pots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPAULPITT Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 If I was changing the pups i'd just change out the whole circuit board for the traditional 4x500k pots Agreed. I put EMGs into my les paul studio. The holes in the top for the pots are bigger for the circuitboard setup, so when you change to normal pots you have alot of slack in there, which isnt really a big deal but not as nice as before when they went in nice. I just cut some little shims out of toothpicks and filled the little gaps just to take the slop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BentonC Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi fellas, Can anyone elaborate on why they don't like the PCBs? I don't really have a particular opinion either way, but I'm really curious to know. Harder to do mods? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPAULPITT Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi fellas, Can anyone elaborate on why they don't like the PCBs? I don't really have a particular opinion either way, but I'm really curious to know. Harder to do mods? Just curious Its a neat setup but alot of people like to change pups and this makes it hard. Its all done to save money for Gibson so that their greedy execs can get richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceS Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've got a 2010 Standard (GC Special model). It's got the hand wired pots,etc. No PCB. It also has the coil spliters. It's a nice feature. It give more of a tonal range and is transparent when you aren't splitting the coils. I've also got a 2009 LP Studio Deluxe which is another GC special with the coil splitting function. It's also hand wired with no PCB. I wonder if Guitar Center spec's them out this way or mine were just the luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've got a 2010 Standard (GC Special model). It's got the hand wired pots,etc. No PCB. It also has the coil spliters. It's a nice feature. It give more of a tonal range and is transparent when you aren't splitting the coils. I've also got a 2009 LP Studio Deluxe which is another GC special with the coil splitting function. It's also hand wired with no PCB. I wonder if Guitar Center spec's them out this way or mine were just the luck of the draw. You know, I've never bothered to check I just assumed they were the PCB'd variety since that is the supposed S.O.P. nowadays. Next time I change the strings I'm going to have to take a peek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceS Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 You know, I've never bothered to check I just assumed they were the PCB'd variety since that is the supposed S.O.P. nowadays. Next time I change the strings I'm going to have to take a peek. I just took the small cover off the back and looked. No need to swap the strings. Same for either the LP or SG. My SG had uncovered zebra pickups that I thought looked crappy with the wine colored body, so I added chrome covers to them. After I pulled the batwing and looked there was just the wiring going through the routing in the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin4195 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hi fellas, Can anyone elaborate on why they don't like the PCBs? I don't really have a particular opinion either way, but I'm really curious to know. Harder to do mods? Just curious Also, if anything goes wrong you can't just hand it to a tech and have him look at it. he needs to replace the board, the pots included, and you have to wait while he orders a part, plus you can't change pups easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Also, if anything goes wrong you can't just hand it to a tech and have him look at it. he needs to replace the board, the pots included, and you have to wait while he orders a part, plus you can't change pups easily. Â The pickups are easy to change. Clip the plug off the old pickup. Solder it to the new pickup and plug it in. If your tech is any count at all he can fix the board pretty easy. Just remove the bad part and install the new one. It's not made of magic or anything. I love the boards. It's about time guitar makers started catching up with the rest of the world. Now... coil splitting? That's about useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo68 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Mine doesn't have the pcb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I just took the small cover off the back and looked. No need to swap the strings. Same for either the LP or SG. My SG had uncovered zebra pickups that I thought looked crappy with the wine colored body, so I added chrome covers to them. After I pulled the batwing and looked there was just the wiring going through the routing in the body. Took the cover off the control cavity and I'll be damned if you weren't right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin4195 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 The pickups are easy to change. Clip the plug off the old pickup. Solder it to the new pickup and plug it in. If your tech is any count at all he can fix the board pretty easy. Just remove the bad part and install the new one. It's not made of magic or anything. I love the boards. It's about time guitar makers started catching up with the rest of the world. Now... coil splitting? That's about useless. Â I didn't know about the pick up clip thing, but my tech is very very good at what he does, but I asked him about it, and he said it is a lot harder, because he said something like, to replace the part you need to solder it at the right angle, where as with wires you can just solder and bend, and then screw in the pot. With the board the solder is the bond, and he said it is a lot harder for him to do. I don't know myself, but i'm just repeating what he said. He said it takes him longer, then takes him longer thus more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottGrove Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I like the boards and the splittable pickups. I don't EVER do mods on a guitar. I don't see any reason to shell out thousands of dollars on a guitar just to treat it as a science fair project. That being said, I noticed that you had mentioned coil splitting and coil tapping in the same paragraph. They are 2 VERY different things. Coil splitting is when you have a humbucker and you simply want to "Split" it to turn off one coil and virtually end up with a single coil sound. Coil "Tapping" is all together different. You can put a coil tap switch on a single coil pickup. The Ibanez Roadstar models were huge on this in the late 70's and early 80's. They actually TAP into aparticular portion of the pickup winding and you end up with out of phase sounds, or the wah pedal in the middle position sound etc. So, it depends on where in the coil that it is physically tapped. Â The sad thing about coil splitting on humbuckers (I know, some of you have magic pickups that this don't happen with) is that the humbucker will never sound like a full humbucker once the coil split knob or switch has been added. The single coil sound that you get once you split it will not quite sound like a true single coil either. You have a compromise between the 2 of them. So, you live with it if you like it. Below I'll show you 2 variations of what you have to live with when it comes to the Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro which has the coil splitting on push / pull volume pots for both pickups. The other will be on a prototype guitar that a buddy and I have worked on that finally makes it all work PERFECTLY with no boards or splits or taps. You actually have 5 pickups and standard wiring and they will give you the ultimate combination of every pickup combo ever concieved and done the RIGHT way. I'll even toss in my Les Paul Studio Lite M-III for more on this whole subject. Enjoy the contrasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottGrove Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Here's the ULTIMATE in wiring and REAL WORLD usage of a DO IT ALL Guitar. Now just a little fun on the Les Paul Traditional Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghead Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I have the GC wine with zebras. No PCB. That's interesting about the split pickups not sounding quite like a regular humbucker or single coil. I LOVE the sound of mine. Maybe that's why? A little unique? I've never liked uncovered pickups and was planning on covering them but they've grown on me a lot and I may leave them uncovered. I also like that the cherry color is more wine colored than the typical modern gibson cherry color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottGrove Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I feel the same way. I like that my pickups on the Traditional Pro don't quite have the humbucker sound. It's just a bit clearer than my muddier Les Paul axes. Sometimes a little "mess up" is a great thing. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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