devellis Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 I was talking to a Gibson 5-star dealer today about a Gibson SJ-200. I asked about the True Vintage and was told that there are no more True Vintage guitars. He didn't mean they were out of stock, he meant they were history. Have others heard this? Could that actually be true? Although this dealership has an excellent rep, it occurred to me that this might have been a strategy to divert me toward models in stock (although I made it clear that I was about 3 weeks away from purchasing). So, I thought it was time to tap into the collective knowledge base of this forum for some straight answers. Anybody know the skinny on this? This might be a good issue for modoc_333 to raise with the folks in Bozeman when he visits next week.
J-1854Me Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 I was talking to a Gibson 5-star dealer today about a Gibson SJ-200. I asked about the True Vintage and was told that there are no more True Vintage guitars. He didn't mean they were out of stock, he meant they were history. Have others heard this? Could that actually be true? Although this dealership has an excellent rep, it occurred to me that this might have been a strategy to divert me toward models in stock (although I made it clear that I was about 3 weeks away from purchasing). So, I thought it was time to tap into the collective knowledge base of this forum for some straight answers. Anybody know the skinny on this? This might be a good issue for modoc_333 to raise with the folks in Bozeman when he visits next week. Gibson still list the True Vintage Hummingbird, J-45 and SJ-200. Although the SJ TV is no longer 'listed', per se, it is still available. That's straight from Gibson. Fred
vincentw Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 The True Vintage was a model juxtaposed by the Modern Classic. Both models are no longer available under those particular names. But, yes, the acoustic division can still produce these, but it wouldn't be called a TV.
devellis Posted March 5, 2011 Author Posted March 5, 2011 Interesting, if somewhat surprising. Thanks for the clarification. So, I gather, it would take a custom order to get the specific appointments that the TV had?
stein Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 when gibson stops making a model they still show up on the price list for some time because they are still out there. the real question, which i don't have an answer for, is if the model has been replaced by something that is the same or better, or they truly have stopped making it. another real solution though, is to have or find a dealer you trust. if you don't think your dealer is concerned about being straight with you or cares about what you care about, why would you be giving him your money? if you decide you like your dealer, then you are more apt to not be so concerned about certain things because you are getting value from him in the form of service to your needs and wants.
retrorod Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 I,m sorry, but all these categories and sub-categories of traditional Gibson Guitar models, just drives me crazy. Just build the damn guitar as best as you can. I grew up when a J45 was a J45. No True Vintage or Woody Guthrie or 12 fret....14 fret....60's....Modern....Workingman's....Hank Williams...modern vintage.....adi-top...sitka-top.....rosewood.....BS. For Petes Sake....ain,t no damn wonder, half the country is so F#**#ed -UP...! Rod
larryp58 Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 Are the True Vintage models still alive and well? Well, MINE IS!!!!! (and how!)
Guth Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 The True Vintage was a model juxtaposed by the Modern Classic. Both models are no longer available under those particular names. But, yes, the acoustic division can still produce these, but it wouldn't be called a TV. Aside from the OP's initial comments, this is the first I've heard of the True Vintage series being "dropped". Wow, Guth
eds111 Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 "The True Vintage was a model juxtaposed by the Modern Classic. Both models are no longer available under those particular names" Why does Gibson keep changing the names/lines of the models every couple of years? Makes it confusing to buyers and sellers IMO.
Jack6849 Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 I wonder if this might mean that Adirondack (Picea rubens) Spruce is getting scarce again? Its use was a standard feature on several "True Vintage" models, including my SJ-200 TV, (which is the best Gibson acoustic guitar I've ever owned). Maybe this recent period of quality Adirondack availability is ending.... It seems odd that Gibson would, in fact, be ending the "True Vintage" series. Every one I played was truly a special guitar.... and a cut above the norm.... I hope we hear more on this topic. Jack6849
BigKahune Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 I,m sorry, but all these categories and sub-categories of traditional Gibson Guitar models, just drives me crazy. Just build the damn guitar as best as you can. I grew up when a J45 was a J45. No True Vintage or Woody Guthrie or 12 fret....14 fret....60's....Modern....Workingman's....Hank Williams...modern vintage.....adi-top...sitka-top.....rosewood.....BS.For Petes Sake... ... +1
J-1854Me Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 I wonder if this might mean that Adirondack (Picea rubens) Spruce is getting scarce again? Its use was a standard feature on several "True Vintage" models, including my SJ-200 TV, (which is the best Gibson acoustic guitar I've ever owned). Maybe this recent period of quality Adirondack availability is ending.... It seems odd that Gibson would, in fact, be ending the "True Vintage" series. Every one I played was truly a special guitar.... and a cut above the norm.... I hope we hear more on this topic. Jack6849 Jack (& others), I spoke to Don at Gibson in Bozeman yesterday. He's one of if not the main sales guy there, and he said that the True Vintage series is still there, still on the price lists. It has been pared back to consist of only the True Vintage Hummingbird, True Vintage J-45 and Tue Vintage SJ-200. BUT, you can still order the SJ True Vintage, even though it's not "on the list". Fred
Jack6849 Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks Fred, Appreciate the info and glad to hear your news. Jack6849
rar Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 I spoke to Don at Gibson in Bozeman yesterday. ... Fred, Well, at least it's clear what's going on now: the Powers That Be in Nashville decided to drop the "True Vintage" moniker, but no one bothered to tell the folks in Bozeman. That's so Gibson!! -- Bob R
J-1854Me Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Fred, Well, at least it's clear what's going on now: the Powers That Be in Nashville decided to drop the "True Vintage" moniker, but no one bothered to tell the folks in Bozeman. That's so Gibson!! -- Bob R Tru dat.
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