onewilyfool Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 From Page 3- "comparable and equivalent guitars- from least expensive to most expensive"(1930's) I've added Current MSRP prices just for fun. Gibson Martin L-00 ($6919.00 Music Zoo) 00-18 ($3349.00 First Quality's for 00-18V) J-35 ($3218.00- Fullers) D-18 ($2599.00 Musician's friend) Advanced Jumbo ($3268.00 Musician's friend) D-28 (2999.00 Musician's friend) Nick Lucas ($3892.00 estimate from Elderly site no longer made) 000-28 ($3149.00 Musician's friend) SJ 200 ($4925 Standard Sam Ash) D-45 ($9999.00 MusiciansBuy) I imagine that Taylor, Guild and others could be compared, might be interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Are those the only comparables? I mean, Martin also has some really expensive models (as Gibson has more expensive ones as well). While martin makes a truly fine guitar, I would have to say that the "standard" Martins are perhaps a step below in quality compared to what they offer in the upper end Martins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 I tried to just choose the "standard" models where possible. the 00-18 and the Nick Lucas are no longer made, and the J-35 is a reissue as is the L-00 I think....best I could do If you guys find better prices, let me know and I'll update the lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul E Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I had just recently purchased a 1939 reissue J-35 from Fullers for $2399.00. Beautiful guitar, no flaws at all. In fact every guitar I had bought from Fullers did not have any finish flaws in them at all. Great to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I imagine a list like that is not so easy. In a lot of cases there may be no direct comparables, but then again that could be a matter of perspective. Of corse, the other interesting thing to consider is that depending on what is being played and the player. For example, it is not nearly as common to use a Gibson for fingerpicking, and it is equally less common to use a Martin for genres of country music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 From Page 3- "comparable and equivalent guitars- . . . . . SJ 200 ($4925 Standard Sam Ash) D-45 ($9999.00 MusiciansBuy) Hmmm . . . . . I currently own examples of each - SJ-200 & D-45 VR - . . and I wouldn't say they are comparale or equivalent. In fact, they're not eqivalent, and completely different in every way, including price. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Guys....these were the models available in the 30's according to the book. They were arranged in lowest to highest price in the book. I just thought it would be interesting to see what the MSRP is int todays market....I'm not comparing a J-200 to a Martin D-45. Those were the most expensive upper end of the guitars at the time in the 30's!!! Martin and Gibson BOTH make more expensive guitars by a long shot than these two. I just thought it would be interesting...apparently I was wrong...sorry if I offended anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Guys.... ...sorry if I offended anyone... Oh heck no. No worries there. I misunderstood the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 you didn't offend anyone, and this is a totally interesting topic. It is interesting on many levels, because on the one hand it can get quite expensive and overboard trying to reproduce such a guitar exact, while on the other hand, It makes one thing about what made the guitar a good seller and useful compared to how that would be accomplished now. No one would have thought back then that so much effort and cost would be made to reproduce those in the future, they would have thought the road would have led to entirely different builds that were improvements to whatever problems or shortcomings they had, but yet, today, we tend to think otherwise to a great degree. If anything, when it comes to guitars, it should be noted that some of us are going to take things way deeper than would make sense, but we like to think about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Interesting point....107 years ago....who would have thought that the same companies would be still trying to re-create the very same guitars they made 107 years ago (175 years for Martin). Interesting mentality. What did cars look like 100 years ago....wouldn't it be silly to still be trying to re-create cars of yester-year in the same way? How about planes? A J-35 , when it came out....Was $35.00...hence the name. $2400 (street) today. How about a J-2400?? At least modernize the name....lol. Wonder what the "guitar of the future" will look like and cost???? you didn't offend anyone, and this is a totally interesting topic. It is interesting on many levels, because on the one hand it can get quite expensive and overboard trying to reproduce such a guitar exact, while on the other hand, It makes one thing about what made the guitar a good seller and useful compared to how that would be accomplished now. No one would have thought back then that so much effort and cost would be made to reproduce those in the future, they would have thought the road would have led to entirely different builds that were improvements to whatever problems or shortcomings they had, but yet, today, we tend to think otherwise to a great degree. If anything, when it comes to guitars, it should be noted that some of us are going to take things way deeper than would make sense, but we like to think about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The guitar of the future? lol..perhaps you mean like an Ibanez with a super-thin neck and a locking mechanism and battery powered pups going through a computer enhancemant (digital effects) and then possibly to an amp that is louder than anything short of an explosion could have created in 1930? oh, and all this grinded out of machines, from factories. For as little as a couple hudred bucks from the whole other side of the world. But, who could have imagined that the guitar would have become the MAIN instrument of poeples imaginations, coming from a 1930's perspective. And who could have imagined the music that would be made. But, in many ways, we try and replicate these old guitars because we try and replicate the same music from back then-we still seek it out and try and play it. What may seem odd, is that I think they might have assumed we still would, that music would not be any different. But now that you mention it, how much was 35 bucks back then? It seems like it would be more than 2800 bucks now..but then again, they didn't have huge mortgages and credit cards and car payments. So... What is also different is in 1930 there were FAR more woodworkers and a higher percentage of the average person would have some skill with it, compared to today. While there is much better tooling today, in 1930 they would have been able to develop skills that still made it an easier time for them to work with wood, some skills even a good woodworker doesn't have now. But what REALLY is freaking me out, is that today there is a whole science behind what they were doing beyond even thier knowledge of it, and we are sitting here typing to one another about it instantly from separate parts of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA83 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 But now that you mention it, how much was 35 bucks back then? It seems like it would be more than 2800 bucks now..but then again, they didn't have huge mortgages and credit cards and car payments. So... I wondered that, so I looked it up: $35 is equivalent to $445.48 (in 2009) according to this site http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ Not sure how accurate that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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