S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 EBAY the machine heads, the pups, the neck profile, the TRC are all wrong and non original case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 What makes you think it's a fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FarnsBarns Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 EBAY the machine heads, the pups, the neck profile, the TRC are all wrong and non original case I'd say it was fake, the logo looks crap and so do the inlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FarnsBarns Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The ends of the moustache look too pointed as well. I decided to be bold and asked the seller if he has case candy and receipt coz it looks fake. I'll let you know what response I get. I think there might be 2 guitars pictured there. I think the pic in the case and the one of it being played might be a different, real, Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 The ends of the moustache look too pointed as well. I decided to be bold and asked the seller if he has case candy and receipt coz it looks fake. I'll let you know what response I get. I think there might be 2 guitars pictured there. I think the pic in the case and the one of it being played might be a different, real, Gibson. yea, that TRC with "limited edition" on it realy caught my eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Looks like a fake or refinished LP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 the Gibson inlay in the headstock is definitely funky...look at the i in Gibson and see how it's merged with the G....If it's a fake, it's definitely a good one as far as appearances go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 the Gibson inlay in the headstock is definitely funky...look at the i in Gibson and see how it's merged with the G....If it's a fake, it's definitely a good one as far as appearances go.... tbh, to the untrained eye it may seem real...but the seller didn't reckon on ME checking out his listing i know all about the GM sig run of LP and THAT one defo isn't on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The script logo is screened not inlayed, like the vintage one below - but the letters a bit square and the "s" has a fat bottom loop. There are some other red flags, as Steve pointed out - the machine heads and the pups. Also the anchor screws on the pup collars (4 each) should be flat heads, not dome heads. The TRC and case could've been changed, but the seller doesn't mention that. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 The TRC and case could've been changed, but the seller doesn't mention that. yes, if he has modded it...the pups are 57 classics but should be open coil/reversed zebra burstbuckers, the m heads are grovers but should be klusons, the TRC should read "gary moore" and not "limited edition". it could be an original like mine but modded, if so then he should say so and not stick a fake "limited edition" TRC on it and say it's a limited edition gary moore signature...it is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The script logo is screened not inlayed, like the vintage one below - but the letters a bit square and the "s" has a fat bottom loop. There are some other red flags, as Steve pointed out - the machine heads and the pups. Also the anchor screws on the pup collars (4 each) should be flat heads, not dome heads. The TRC and case could've been changed, but the seller doesn't mention that. . . . good point , I just now read his listing, and I just reckoned he swapped it out...but yea thanks for correcting me on the "inlay" vs screen..what year did they stop the inlay process? Never knew about the screws on the pup rings either...and people say you don't learn things on this forum.... I also just noticed that the case, if it's the old style ones, it doesn't have the shroud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 this is how it should look :) and the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 . Very cool Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It is very possible that is is not a Gary Moore model at all, but rather just a studio with the better top. They were common for awile. It is also completely possible that the dealer was fooled as well, it does happen. There could have been a mix up somewhere concerning the GM moniker, in that someone may have made a "Gary Moore" by replicating one by making a likeness for himself and referring to it that way, not trying to fool anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 It is also completely possible that the dealer was fooled as well, it does happen. then i hope i never buy a guitar from the said dealer, so basicly you could walk into the said dealers shop with a bog standard lemonburst studio and tell them it's a gary moore signature and the dealer would believe you...deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 also just noticed...is the hardware on that chrome?, it should be nickel! F A K E!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 then i hope i never buy a guitar from the said dealer, so basicly you could walk into the said dealers shop with a bog standard lemonburst studio and tell them it's a gary moore signature and the dealer would believe you...deal done. WELL, yes thats true. It was mostly a statement addressing the owner and his intentions, that while he may not have the real deal, he might genuinely not be trying to fool anybody. There are a number of dealers that really aren't much of a dealer, and more of a pawnshop that happens to sell guitars. Thats where a guy like you comes in to set poeple straight, it doesn't HAVE to mean someone is trying to rip someone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thats where a guy like you comes in to set poeple straight, it doesn't HAVE to mean someone is trying to rip someone off. oh yea, i wasn't personaly attacking the seller just pointing out that it's a fake...as you said the seller may not no it's not genuine B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 ... the "inlay" vs screen..what year did they stop the inlay process? ... Gibson still does both, depending on the model. Generally speaking the higher priced stuff is inlaid, but not always. Speaking of inlays, there's another red flag: Generally speaking, Gibson's f/b inlays are usually really tight, this guitar has at least one sloppy inlay. You can see it in the pic where the seller points out the fret wear - look at the top of the trapazoid, treble side corner - the route was rounded too big. There's filler, like you see on Epi's. I'm still not saying fake. But there are some red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 it might not be "fake" but it is NOT an original gary moore sig in it's current form...maybe it's been modified, it's either modified and the owner don't know or it's a fake and he's selling it knowing so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahKeen Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 I thought all Gary Moores were fake...... No?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 I thought all Gary Moores were fake...... No?? i'm not gonna bite farnsbarns, has the seller replied to your question yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FarnsBarns Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 i'm not gonna bite farnsbarns, has the seller replied to your question yet? Yes, twice. First one asking me to elaborate, which I did, I was diplomatic and said I'm sure he wouldn't knowingly rip anyone off. Second said "it is a Gibson" but did not say It's a Gary Moore and demanded I "take back my comments". Oh well, I expect the buyer will be showing it off here soon then. Who's gonna tell him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Oh well, I expect the buyer will be showing it off here soon then. Who's gonna tell him? me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geert1976 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 its nog a Gary Moore LP, but it is a Gibson LP Studio Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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