Lungimsam Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Why are some Fire Engine Red and some dark like Wine Red? And why is it so hard to get a new Gibson more like the wine color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 It has to do with the color of the wood that's being stained. Maple will be a lot brighter than mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 I am talking about mahogany. Sorry wasnt clear. I will edit post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I should have gleaned that out, you did mention new Gibsons, which should imply "As opposed to old Gibsons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 No problem. My fault. Different woods would definitely appear different. I wonder if Gibson changes the color formula for some reason, or if it's the number of passes the painter makes with the airgun? Do they do different runs of differing Heritage Cherry colors on purpose for some reason? Just wundrin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Now I'm curious, too. I wonder if it's on purpose or just because they can't get the old hue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Not all mahogany woods are as absorbent, and the grains are looser, or tighter. That can have an affect on the shades, or hues. Lighting is going to show lighter, or darker also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 You've got to take into account that the 60s SGs have had 40+ years to age. However, if you go back and look at the 61-65 SGs, they were a brighter red than the 67-70 SGs. My SG Standard can go from a brownish darker red to a blood red, depending what light it's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 the amount, and freshness of the filler, as well as the stain its self play a part don't they? pop a can of filler and see if it's not darker by the time you get to the bottom....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here's some Mid 90's Heritage Cherry on the Mahogany back of my Nighthawk. It's nowhere near Wine, like the 80's SG's I've encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 You've got to take into account that the 60s SGs have had 40+ years to age. However, if you go back and look at the 61-65 SGs, they were a brighter red than the 67-70 SGs. My SG Standard can go from a brownish darker red to a blood red, depending what light it's in. If you have time post some pics. Would love to see the hue. Here's my '61 RI (2001 model). Very light color. But the grain shows great! Here's a '61 EB3: And a '69. Look how much darker it is. I like darker better: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here she is, pics can't hardly do it justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Check out my avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here she is, pics can't hardly do it justice. Yeah, see, yours looks darker, while others look totally different. They must be mixing the stain differently each batch or something. It looks like it is not just the brightness, but the red color tone differs. I wonder if it is random, or timed (like, dark during the fall production, lighter in summer production). And if there is any way the consumer can more easily get what they want. I wish they had someone from Gibson who could explain how its done. Very curious about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Here's mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 heres mine, dated 7/19/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mixing paint can be a daunting task if you are trying to 'match' something else. Even paint which is purchased at the store at the same time, in multiple containers will vary from one container to another. Good painters will mix all the containers together to make sure they get nice homogeneous color from start to finish on big jobs. It's not that they intentionally change the hues from one paint batch to another, it just happens. It can also change from the first use of the container to the last, if the paint is not initially mixed well, or if it isn't constantly stirred through the last use of that container. The hand that applies the finish can have an effect on the finished product as well. Humidity and temperature can affect drying time and therefore the perceived hue, more so on metal flake finishes. Age and environment can change the hue of a finish job from one guitar to another. Also, lighting can change the color your eye perceives. Those God awful fluorescent lights make anything look a little greener. The sodium vapor lights, common in most big box stores, are even worse. They make everything skew blue. But this is intentional. Whites look whiter and colors seem to 'pop' when lit up in blue. Incandescent adds a nice warm yellow glow to everything. Clear, incandescent bulbs make used cars sparkle. Sun light is about the only thing that is a constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Here are some pics of my 71 SG Standard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mother of god Dave, why did you have to do that to me? So much GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Here's mine. What the hell is going on with that tele in the bottom corner man? Is it just a reflection or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 @ Daveinspain: That's a rare bird! Sweet SG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Yes! Now we are getting a real "Wall of Cherry" going with all these cool pictures! Great looking SG's all around! Nice to see all the color tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmills Optional Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Here's my 2009 Heritage Cherry SG Classic side by side with my wine red 2005 LP Studio. The flash seems to have made them both look a little redder than they really appear, but given the current weather here in Chicago no telling how long it would be until I could get a pic of them with natural light. Anyway, it gives some relative idea of how close the finishes on the two of them are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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