davidl Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I just taught myself this one. What a great tune to groove to. Anyone else get off on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh yeah, ever since Cream, Wheels Of Fire was released. [thumbup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidl Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 I have to get together with my brother who is excellent on bass and jam this one out. Great bass lines. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 ONE, of my all time favorite's! I've been playing it, for decades, now...to varying degrees of success. Never did sit down and actually learn the "Wheels of Fire" solo, "note for note," though. I guess, because, every time I saw him "live," even back then, he never played that "recorded" solo, like the record. It varied, from "close," to "whatever he wanted to do," at the time! It was all great, though! Plus, he's changed approaches, and tempos, over the years, quite a lot. But, whichever way he does it, it's always Great Fun! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Love that Tune! When you say Eric Clapton's version does that mean one he did with or without Cream. This is one of my Favorite versions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Politician is a decent one to jam to also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The "Wheels of Fire" version, is one of those songs, you cannot listen to, quietly! I always have to crank up the volume, whether it's in the car, or on the home system! Good thing, I have understanding neighbors! ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 . I bust on that one at least once a week - too much fun. And as CB has noted - Clapton likes to improvise and change things a bit. For me that's part of the fun of his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That brings up a point of contention with me. I can't stand it when someone learns an Improvised Solo note for note, and I can't stand it when someone Improvises a written lead. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Yep... I've got an arrangment I like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 ...... I can't stand it when someone learns an Improvised Solo note for note, and I can't stand it when someone Improvises a written lead. ..... Sorry to upset you. Yes, there's note cover-bands/tribute-bands. And there are fans who hate it when they pay money to see an artist and the artist doesn't play their songs note for note. I like to hear a bit of originality/improve where it makes sense. But that's my side of the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Sorry to upset you. Yes, there's note cover-bands/tribute-bands. And there are fans who hate it when they pay money to see an artist and the artist doesn't play their songs note for note. I like to hear a bit of originality/improve where it makes sense. But that's my side of the coin. No no, I'm not upset, and I think I'm agreeing with you. I just mean if you're going to play a song like "Crossraods" or "Sunshine of your Love", songs that were written or arranged with Improvised Solo sections, those songs should be improvised over. But lets say you're going to cover Whitesnakes "Here I go Again", a song that has a written lead part, it should be played as written. And really, if fans want to hear Clapton or Led Zeppelin play their stuff exactly as recorded, then they're missing the point and will forever be disappointed. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Sorry to upset you. Yes, there's note cover-bands/tribute-bands. And there are fans who hate it when they pay money to see an artist and the artist doesn't play their songs note for note.I like to hear a bit of originality/improve where it makes sense. But that's my side of the coin. Yep....I was at a Clapton Concert, years ago, in Los Angeles, and after EC played a Great Version, of "Crossroads," a kid (teen) in front of me said, to his buddy: "Awe Man, F...in' Clapton's LOST it, man! He didn't play "Crossroads" anything like the Record!" And, he was completely serious. (Sigh!!!) Ironically...to me, and..by the reaction of most of the rest of the audience, it was a "kick-a$$" version (solo, and all), regardless! So...??? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh yeah, ever since Cream, Wheels Of Fire was released. [thumbup] The Wheels of Fire version is maybe (maybe?) my all-time favorite recording. I WORE OUT that LP back when I was in college. My favorite burger place close to campus had Cream's Crossroads on the juke box. I had the LP back at my apartment, but I still pumped coin into the juke box to hear it (and Aretha's Respect) at lunch five days a week.... THOSE were the days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I like this one more... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd60nI4sa9A But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I like this one more... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd60nI4sa9A But thats just me. I will admit it's hard to beat the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzboy Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdwVVI4B3oY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaxson50 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpzUb8R4nQU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 You know...on a song like that, I'd LOVE to see Jeff Beck play some "straight blues," stuff...without all his "Beck things!" He used to do some really great "Blues," and can still...when/if he wants to. I love Beck's playing, and always have, but just once in awhile, I'd like to see him back to his roots...without all the tapping, and whammy bar embellishments. But, that's just me, I guess? ;>b ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidl Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 I mistakenly referred to it as Eric Clapton version. I know better than that. Cream it is. And I'm in agreement with FirstMeasure and Charlie Brown. Note for note when soloing is not the point at all. Part of the evolution of my playing is to NOT try to play note for note on solos but to have fun with it and put my own twist on it. More interesting that way. As mentioned, the original artists rarley play identical to the recordings either. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 To me, the beauty of the live Cream version is, as Clapton is going off, bending and holding notes, Baker and Bruce are going supernova behind him. The most beautiful, controlled chaos since Ozzy era Black Sabbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 +1 My thoughts exactly :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I do remember God saying he hated the Wheels of Fire solo because it defined him but it was not him, it was several pieces cobbled together. He even pointed out the edits. But, as usual, I may mis-remember. I don't pick up a guitar without playing that song. Skynyrd has a nice one on their live record from that time of great live records. rct edited "that great time of live records." to "that time of great live records." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That brings up a point of contention with me. I can't stand it when someone learns an Improvised Solo note for note, and I can't stand it when someone Improvises a written lead. But that's just me. Don't mean to derail the thread... but I'm not sure I "get" this. Are you saying you researched every cover tune in your (extensive) catalogue to see if the original artist simply improvised in the studio or actually wrote out the lead beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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