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I took my son shopping for a guitar yesterday and we came home with the Les Paul Push Tone. He's happy with it but would like to explore different pickups - DiMarzio, Bare Knuckles, etc. How do I purchase additional pickup mounts and cable connectors in order to set up additional pickups?

 

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...wow... I think that is a first around here... do you have any pics?

 

Sadly I think right now the only pickup options are from Gibson, you should be able to get a conversion kit for "normal" pickups from them (if not, then they screwed big time).

 

You can contact them through here or one of the guys will stop by and post a number you can call.

 

 

Congratulations on the new axe and for being a cool dad, and welcome to the forum.

 

(we are going to need pics... )

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Thanks for the welcome. I don't know how to post photos directly into the thread so I'll post some links below.

 

1 GOM case http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/1GOMcase.jpg

2 Headstock http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/3headstock.jpg

3 Front body http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/4frontview.jpg

4 Back body http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/5backview.jpg

5 Pup cavity showing 4 mounting magnets http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/6pupcavitybackviewshowing4magnetmou.jpg

6 Pup assembly diagonal view http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/7pupmountingassemblydiagonalview.jpg

7 Pup assembly side view http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/8pupmountingassemblysideview.jpg

8 The harem http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm246/128photo/10TheHarem.jpg

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You could call gibson customer service and ask them if the pickups are standard humbucker width/lenght. The connector could be found at an electronics supply store. Just bring the pickup in and see if they can match it up. You would need the female match to what fit yours. I like the look of no rings, kinda like p90's, but humbucking!

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I was looking at your pic's and noticed that white block that the pickup is mounted to. What material is it? Plastic? Is it soft like rubber? I am thinking that they are trying to isolate the pickup from the body. But why would they balance the pickup on the ends of two screws? Do the sides of the pickups touch the maple top? It seems like they are making the pickup swap out a very easy thing to do(magnetic mounts). Did they include extra connectors in the case?

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I hadnt either (had seen them on MFers site and on the gibson site) and was wondering when one would show up here in the forum... Apparently Gibson is the only manufacturer making pickups for this... maybe they should sell the wiring sys so one can buy pickups from another maker and install them.

 

Currently they have p-90, burstbucker, and I think they have classic 57s... which are all (or maybe just 2 models IDK) shipped with the guitar.

 

Hey CWK... which pickups came with your son's guitar?

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cwk' date='

 

Awesome guitar, hope it brings you and your son years of happiness.

 

I was wondering if you snap a picture of the control cavity, I'm curious to how it's wired.

 

Oh and a picture of the maple inlays please.

 

I always liked the maple inlay idea.

 

Enjoy the guitar.[/quote']

 

DoubleSixx,

 

I'll get the photos tomorrow. My son has taken it to school. I believe that the control cavity has a printed circuit board.

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I was looking at your pic's and noticed that white block that the pickup is mounted to. What material is it? Plastic? Is it soft like rubber? I am thinking that they are trying to isolate the pickup from the body. But why would they balance the pickup on the ends of two screws? Do the sides of the pickups touch the maple top? It seems like they are making the pickup swap out a very easy thing to do(magnetic mounts). Did they include extra connectors in the case?

 

The white block feels like ceramic. This is attached to the steel (?) backplate by 4 screws. Since the steel backplate attaches to the guitar via 4 magnets and would presumably be magnetised, I thought the ceramic block might be to isolate the pups from the magnets.

 

I believe all pickups are balanced on 2 screws. Instead of being attached to pickup rings, the pups are attached to the steel/ceramic pickup mounts.

 

No extra connectors included.

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I guess you can install some pickup rings on it... would look nicer... but the push tone is designed without rings as the pickups are pulled in or out from the back of the guitar...

 

 

I don't think there is enough space between the neck pup and the fingerboard for a pickup ring.

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I hadnt either (had seen them on MFers site and on the gibson site) and was wondering when one would show up here in the forum... Apparently Gibson is the only manufacturer making pickups for this... maybe they should sell the wiring sys so one can buy pickups from another maker and install them.

 

Currently they have p-90' date=' burstbucker, and I think they have classic 57s... which are all (or maybe just 2 models IDK) shipped with the guitar.

 

Hey CWK... which pickups came with your son's guitar?[/quote']

 

Comes with a set of Burstbucker Pros and a set of P-94's. Should be easy enough to install other pickups on the mounts. Hopefully Gibson will sell extra sets of the mounts.

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I e-maild Gibson. Their response:

 

"At this time Gibson sells only pre-packaged parts through our Gibson Gear division. All packaged Gibson replacement parts listed online at http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Divisions/Gibson%20Gear/Accessories/Replacement%20Parts/ can only be ordered through an authorized Gibson dealer. You can find dealers online at http://www.gibson.com/Dealers/.

 

 

 

For all other replacement parts, we suggest the aftermarket parts suppliers listed below;

 

 

 

 

 

WD: 1-877-WDMUSIC www.wdmusic.com www.pickguards.com

All Parts: 1-800-327-8942 www.allparts.com

 

Stewart-McDonald: 1-800-848-2273 www.stewmac.com

 

Warmoth: 253-845-0403 www.warmoth.com"

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Is that fingerboard ebony? The surface looks dull, I guess it could just need cleaning. My ebony FB is very smooth and has a shine when clean.

 

If those blocks are ceramic they would weigh a lot, about as much as the pickup itself. Does the assemby feel that heavy?

 

I just looked at the site, and it says Ebony Fingerboard, but nothing about those white mounts.

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/divisions/gibson%20usa/products/gotm/lespaulpush-tone/

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Fingerboard is ebony. I think it is the flash that made it look dull.

 

I asked my son to tap on the mount and tell me if he thought it was plastic, glass or ceramic. He thought it was ceramic.

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I have just ordered a Gibson LP Push Tone.

Actually, i cancelled my Gibson Dark Fire order for this guitar, mostly due to extended delay and potential hardware problems.

 

Any owners of the Push Tone in here? Could you please provide some info for the sound / tone quality?

Also, is there any update on whether we are able to change the pick ups to other than the ones provided in the package?

 

Thanks!

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Hi all,

 

First post, and I'm reviving this old thread to share some information re: LP Push Tone hardware.

 

I stumbled on this thread when doing some research before buying my own Push Tone (I'll be picking it up in two weeks!). I also ran across some interesting information regarding Push Tone pickup mount assemblies I thought I'd drop by and share.

 

Turns out a German Luthier, at the behest of an Italian Push Tone owner and with the help of Gibson's European distributer, has undertaken the task of manufacturing some after market pickup mount assemblies for the Push Tone. He's been working on it since late last year, and is getting close to his first manufacturing run. The mounts are expected to cost about 29 Euros (I think that's in the neighborhood of $40 or so), from what I understand.

 

If you wish to be added to the mailing list of interested parties, you can send Dragan an email at fineart@t-online.de - just tell him that you are interested and wish to kept in the loop. He speaks excellent English.

 

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I fiddled with one of those at my local dealer a couple of years ago. They used it to demo different pickups. The guitar was clearly just to be used as a sales tool as it didn't even have any finish on it. They had a pair of every Gibson pickup available, including P90s. It was fun to mix and match the tonal variety. Kind of a cool idea for a demo rig but I'm not sure how practical otherwise. But then again, what do I know?

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I fiddled with one of those at my local dealer a couple of years ago. ... The guitar was clearly just to be used as a sales tool... They had a pair of every Gibson pickup available' date=' including P90s. It was fun to mix and match the tonal variety. Kind of a cool idea for a demo rig but I'm not sure how practical otherwise. But then again, what do I know?[/quote']

 

It is definitely not a sales tool, but probably would make a good one if a dealer wanted to throw down the loot to buy one. They're considerably cheaper now than the original MSRP $4449. I've got one and for me, it's very versatile for the same reasons you seem to find it impractical.

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Divisions/Gibson%20USA/Products/GOTM/LesPaulPush-tone/

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It is definitely not a sales tool' date=' but probably would make a good one.....[/quote']

 

I think you misunderstood what I said. This guitar was actually there to demo pickups and nothing else. Like I said, it didn't even have finish on it (Raw Wood, which actually looked kind of cool). It wasn't being marketed as a Push Tone. I asked the sales guy what it was and he said Gibson produced them for their dealers it so folks could compare the sound of various pickups and decide which ones they really wanted to buy and install in their own guitar. They had a whole rack of pickups you could try out, including Mini-Humbuckers, P90s, and about every flavor of full size humbucker they made at the time. Perhaps somone got a look at it and decided it would be marketable as a finished product. I don't doubt the versatility, especially for use in the studio. Swapping pickups between tunes at a gig might be a little awkward, but again what do I know?

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