Bluemoon Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 On an instrument cable....is there a max length before the signal deteriorates? Is 16 feet OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I use a 20', crank the tubes. YMMV. Sounds like a job for Mythbusters....... Murph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Doesnt Buddy Guy use a 100' cable?....The man has great tone. I try not to go over 15-20' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I've got a 30 footer. That's right ladies...30 feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Its not how big your pencil is, its how you sign your name.... Some people are so obsessed with size.. Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I've got a 30 footer.That's right ladies...30 feet! Yeah that's right ladies, A 30 foot trailer park home.... Bring it on!#-o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 10' to 20' should be OK but your signal will deteriorates with distance. Come to think of it I have 30' too. 10' from the guitar to the effects and 20' from there to the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esch Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I use a 10'-20' cable, it is coiled (bullet cable it is called) and I am getting great tone from it...the added length from the coiled cable doesnt seem to cause any degredation compared with the monster cables I used before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yeah that's right ladies' date=' A 30 foot trailer park home.... Bring it on!O:)/ [/quote'] So help me God. Flight, I will cross the pond and strike you down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixr1984 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If you have a buffer or a pedal with a buffer you should be fine with just about any length you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Are you playing in arenas? if not, why would you want more than 20? Maybe even 30 is ok... but more than that... hm... wireless system anyone? (I use one when I play in larger venues... which back in the day was once a month... and now, I dont see that happening anytime soon... maybe for some holiday...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 ... wireless system anyone? I've used Shure wireless guitar systems for years. My first one was a "LS" unit I bought in the early 90's. A very good fixed frequency model that served me very well for about ten years. When we started playing bigger festival and fair type shows I found that with many other wireless units running on other stages and such, I was taking some hits, and had to replace it with a programable frequency model. I'm currently using a Shure ULXS4, which has many adjustable frequencies. Three of us in the band go wireless (me and the bass player use the same Shure model), so we even have to work around each others frequecies within our own band. I went wireless just for the ease of set-up and to not have to stand on, kick around, yank, or trip over own cord. I use no pedals so it makes a very clean and simple set-up on my side of the stage. Since three of us are now wireless, we have incorporated it into the show. Sometimes we'll actually start our opening number from backstage and be a fews bars into it as we walk on. And if the moods strikes us, we can always do the walk into the audience thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Wireless.... Total freedom.... I use a Sennheiser Freeport. Ecellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoon Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 Are you playing in arenas? if not' date=' why would you want more than 20? Maybe even 30 is ok... but more than that... hm... wireless system anyone? (I use one when I play in larger venues... which back in the day was once a month... and now, I dont see that happening anytime soon... maybe for some holiday...)[/quote'] Not arenas. I have an existing 10 foot cable that i really like. The brand of cable only comes in 10, 6 and 15. I was going to add a 6 foot from my OCD pedal to amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toner Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 On an instrument cable....is there a max length before the signal deteriorates? Is 16 feet OK? If you play with a sparking treble like tone, the quality of the cable will make a big differance because of it's internal capacitance. Cable manufactuers should list the "pico farad"(pf) capacitance on the package, which would help you pick the right cable, but they don't. I searched bulk microphone cable by capacitance and found that they vary a lot in capacitance. http://www.mogamicable.com/Bulk/Bulk.htm If you look at the specs for "Guitar cables" and compare them to "High Quality Balanced Microphone" they have about half the capacitance. I used Mogami 2792 (50 cent/ft.)to make a 20' cable and it worked great. The twisted pair is not needed, that's for balanced mic use, but does reduce the capacitance of the single conuctor used. The other conductor could just be left floating inside, un-used. But if your playing a dark tone already, a long cable will have little effect on your sound. Also, the amps input resistance plays a part in how the cables capacitance drops the highs. A buffer or non-"true bypass" pedal will help keep the cable from "filtering" the highs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Sennheiser eW-372 evolution wireless... used to play with a previous (and cheaper) version which I still have, the eW100... but the new one came to me unexpectedly and at a very good price... this guy always rips people off... but three times now I have gone to his store in the exact moment to find this one thing that has been priced as a lower end model... they actually had the thing at the price of the ew-172 which is half of the one I got!. I go tmy wolfgang custom from him too, same situation... (I wouldnt have paid 2K for a damn peavey guitar... it was less than half that price). This guys has everything at twice the price... and everything in his store is sh¡t... but from time to time he will have some nice stuff and his employees wont even know "that sunburst guitar" costs 10 times more than "that one red guitar"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LerxstLee Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Hi all , Just thought I would drop in with my experiences . I use george lynch cables , I think Klotz make the best but I also believe there are limits . I stopped using a wireless as I notice a sound difference over a cord . I am not "big" into designer cables , but I like to get the pickup to the input if I can . I bought this Tonebone Radial and I am back to wireless. I love it . Right click open in new tab , you won't get the occasional forum bump . http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pdf/spec/153929.pdf Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 If you have a buffer or a pedal with a buffer you should be finewith just about any length you want. +1 By buffer, Fixr means just about any pedal that is not true bypass like a Boss or Ibanez or the like. Alternately, you can also just keep one pedal on all the time. Realistically, unless you're playing on pretty large stages, 18' total should be plenty for most bar gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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