deepblue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I got this picture from another site. It shows the guidline to the weights of various Gibson Les Pauls. I guess its posted on a door or wall at the Custom shop. It says "Les Paul Backs" Forgive me if this is a duh question but, I assume they mean those are the weights before the neck, hardware and paint/nitro are applied... correct? So it explains why my R9 ended up at 9.1 pounds, when it originally started at 8 pounds or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Interesting..... that would be my guess- prior to assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Another user posted a very similar picture to that a while back which generated alot of discussion. Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 So it explains why my R9 ended up at 9.1 pounds' date=' when it originally started at 8 pounds or less.[/quote']The body of your R9 met the initial criteria of under 8 pounds. The additional weight comes from the electonics, hardware, etc. (Here's my potential duh moment...) I know what you mean, though. You can't get that much information from that picture. What does "Les Paul backs" mean exactly? It is just the mahogany body, or is it the mahogany back + the maple top, or is it all of the wood components (body + top + neck)? I know that the obvious answer to my question is only the mahogany body...but I think it's the total weight of the wood. The reason I say that is because if that 8 lbs or less is just the mahogany body, that would mean the maple cap, neck electronics and hardware all weigh approximately 3 oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjimdom Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I know that the obvious answer to my question is only the mahogany body...but I think it's the total weight of the wood. The reason I say that is because if that 8 lbs or less is just the mahogany body' date=' that would mean the maple cap, neck electronics and hardware all weigh approximately 3 oz. [/quote'] It could be just the mahogany backs. Since the sign only shows the maximum acceptable weight .. or less. No telling how much less the average body alone weighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 slimjimdom, just for discussions sake... When a person buys a R9, they pay a premium for two things...light wood and a flame top. That picture says R9 8 or less, R8 9 or less...right? So, does that mean a R9's body can weigh 8.0 and a R8's body can weight 8.1...technically? It's safe to say that of the ones I've held, R9s are noticeably lighter than the other historics. That's why I said you can't get that much information from that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunsNRoses23 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 ugh this R9 R8 R7.. does that mean that its a reissue of 9 of 90s 8 of 80s etc? sorry for the stupid q but if thats like that, is my les paul classic since its a reissue of the 1960's is it an R6? thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 GunsNRoses23, R stands for reissue and the 6,7,8,9 stands for the year from the 50s. ie. 1959 Les Paul reissue. Your Classic is not a reissue, even though it have 1960 on the pickguard. It's a long story that has been covered time and time again. Reissue Les Pauls are constructed more along the lines of an old Les Paul. Just search the forum for "historic" or "reissue" and you should get plenty of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunsNRoses23 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 ok thank you tim ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV-Zeppelin Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I had to ask that same question a while back, GnR... R8= 1958 reissue, etc. also R0 is a 1960 reissue and R4 and R7 are the 1954 and 1957 Goldtops, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Guilty, as with many of us when we first enter the Les Paul world. A word of caution though, don't bother looking for any of the Rx's on the Gibson site, you won't find anything. It's just a slang term used informally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I always assumed that the weight on this picture would have been for the uncarved blank before final shaping and routing etc. since this is probably on the end of a sorting shelf or similar device where the wood is ;ole;y just rough cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I always assumed that the weight on this picture would have been for the uncarved blank before final shaping and routing etc. since this is probably on the end of a sorting shelf or similar device where the wood is ;ole;y just rough cut. Bingo !!! I think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarJunkie Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I know that the obvious answer to my question is only the mahogany body...but I think it's the total weight of the wood. The reason I say that is because if that 8 lbs or less is just the mahogany body' date=' that would mean the maple cap, neck electronics and hardware all weigh approximately 3 oz. [/quote'] It's probably the mahogany blank, before the shape has even been cut. Let's say it were to start out at 8 lbs, then about 50 percent of that is cut away/routed out. That would give you 4 or 5 lbs for the maple top, neck, hardware, etc. EDIT: D'oh!! Just saw retro's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I think you guys are on the right track. There's a spec for density on the wood used in the reissues because it will not be drilled or chambered. Gotta have a way to sort it it and determine which pieces get machined for a Reissue or get sent to the regular line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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