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where, can i find out the history or basic run down of what makes the difference of a 60/70's les paul, and why is there some out there for a few grand on ebay and some for DRUG Money, like ive seen one on E-bay for $600,000.00, usd, What The??? some folks must be Mad, or have i missed the point somewhere?? i can understand 25-30 G, but not the price of a house or two. what, have i missed does a 69, Les paul, sound 600, times better than, a 2011??? :unsure: [drool][blink] :unsure: ??

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If you are saying you've seen a 69 for $600,000 then it is a dreamer asking far too much. A 59 on the other hand is the holy grail. Even then it would have to be an extremely good example and if that were the case it wouldn't be on eBay. I don't know what the most that has ever been paid is but I've heard if 3-400,000 but 6 is more than I've ever heard of. Perhaps it has been owned by a big name.

 

I saw an LP that had been signed by the entire Jackson family up for sale just after MJ died and it was no where near that much.

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I have a '73 deluxe, and it's still my favorite instrument, although I have played and owned production les pauls from the last two decades also. My own view is that (unless it is almost new), anytime I see a used les paul with standard appointments selling above the $1000-1800 band, it has morphed from the "guitar" market, to the "collectors" market, a magical through-the-looking-glass world that has almost nothing to do with the usefulness of the instrument for making music, and is governed by an ever-changing series of arbitrary standards regarding what is desirable. I am not a collector, and find that 70's LP's are excellent for making music. I am also delighted that they can be had for reasonable prices because of the lack of "mystical collector mojo" that some sensitive souls apparently feel, but I don't.

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availability+coolness=COLLECTABILITY.

 

When it comes to the burst, there are about 1800 BUILT of the '58, '59, and 60. Of that number, about 800 are known to exist. Of that number, a minority are highly flamed. They were highly desired in the 70's. As an added bonus, nearly all of these would have been owned at least at some time by someone known or famous.

 

The LP was not even made again until '68, but when they did make them again, they made them in huge numbers. While '70's LP's are considered good guitars by many, there were a lot of things about them that were quite different to the ORIGINAL production, and what is made now is closer to the original. While some think the '70's are cool because they are different in a lot of ways, there are PLENTY of them to satisfy the demand.

 

Now...between the first '68 start up of production and the '70, there are a couple of models of the goldtop and the custom that were built in smaller numbers, and not quite like the later ones when production really picked up. They ARE rare, and they are thought to be more valuable that the typical "70's production runs, but they are not quite able to demand higher prices when there are original customs and goldtops made before '61 available (when they stopped), so each makes their own judgements what they might be worth.

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I have a '73 deluxe, and it's still my favorite instrument, although I have played and owned production les pauls from the last two decades also. My own view is that (unless it is almost new), anytime I see a used les paul with standard appointments selling above the $1000-1800 band, it has morphed from the "guitar" market, to the "collectors" market, a magical through-the-looking-glass world that has almost nothing to do with the usefulness of the instrument for making music, and is governed by an ever-changing series of arbitrary standards regarding what is desirable. I am not a collector, and find that 70's LP's are excellent for making music. I am also delighted that they can be had for reasonable prices because of the lack of "mystical collector mojo" that some sensitive souls apparently feel, but I don't.

 

Hey Martin, I've got her sister. I have a 73 deluxe I got new in 1973. I have other guitars but this is my favorite. I wont say I play it more than any other, but I have a love for this one.

 

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Hey Martin, I've got her sister. I have a 73 deluxe I got new in 1973. I have other guitars but this is my favorite. I wont say I play it more than any other, but I have a love for this one.

 

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I hope I don't cross a moral line here, but I seem to have feelings for your guitar as well. TOM bridge, beautiful soft gold color in great shape, swirly pearly fretbaord markers. Solid as a Cadillac. Very much an ideal for me.

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I hope I don't cross a moral line here, but I seem to have feelings for your guitar as well. TOM bridge, beautiful soft gold color in great shape, swirly pearly fretbaord markers. Solid as a Cadillac. Very much an ideal for me.

 

LOL, I'm glad you like her stein. I got it in 73, but got an es175 in 77, and I really never played it a lot after that. Its got a lot of sentimental value for me though, and I do pick it up once in a while.

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LOL...Thanks...I guess I'm just a "Guitar Porn" addict. Any excuse to post photos,

of my guitars, and...I love seeing everyone else's, too! ;>)

 

CB

 

Charlie, I didn't mean anything by that. I just remembered yours because I really liked the way the red "popped" on it. I don't think there were tons of the cherry bursts out there in 73. I think there were mostly gold tops. I might have gotten one had I seen one. Im a guitar porn addict myself. LOL

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Charlie, I didn't mean anything by that. I just remembered yours because I really liked the way the red "popped" on it. I don't think there were tons of the cherry bursts out there in 73. I think there were mostly gold tops. I might have gotten one had I seen one. Im a guitar porn addict myself. LOL

 

Ah, no problem, at all. I didn't take offense, truly.

 

Cheers,

CB

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I see nothing wrong with the 70's guitars in terms of tone or playability, but would not pay the "collector's price" for one... they are a dime a dozen compared to the 50's Les Pauls.

 

The only thing that would concern me about the 70's models is that "pancake" style body. I've read that over time they can begin to separate.

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where, can i find out the history or basic run down of what makes the difference of a 60/70's les paul, and why is there some out there for a few grand on ebay and some for DRUG Money, like ive seen one on E-bay for $600,000.00, usd, What The??? some folks must be Mad, or have i missed the point somewhere?? i can understand 25-30 G, but not the price of a house or two. what, have i missed does a 69, Les paul, sound 600, times better than, a 2011??? :unsure: [drool][blink] :unsure: ??

 

Remember, just because someone puts an instrument up for a ridiculous sum of money, that doesn't mean anyone's going to buy it. One selling strategy on ebay is to start with a high price and see if anybody bites, then keep relisting with a slightly lower price until it sells.

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I see nothing wrong with the 70's guitars in terms of tone or playability, but would not pay the "collector's price" for one... they are a dime a dozen compared to the 50's Les Pauls.

 

The only thing that would concern me about the 70's models is that "pancake" style body. I've read that over time they can begin to separate.

 

I've had mine for 38 years, and not even the slightest indication that is even thinking about separating. Its as solid as a truck, and about as heavy.

 

I too see nothing wrong with them. They always get a bad rap. Sure there are some problems, but I've had new Gibsons in the past few years that I've sent back. I know people dont like the volutes but they've never been in the way for me. I hardly notice it.

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