Pappenheim Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hello together, I also posted this in the german Gibson-Forum, a few days ago, but there are just 40 views and 0 answers. So I try to translate the text in English, please apologize - I am from Austria/Europe - the one or other word or grammar may hurt you. I just signed in and this is my first posting. Actually I play acoustic guitars (a Gibson Artist Dove "Elvis Presley" ist my best guitar). Since 5 mounths i quit smoking and in about 3 mounth i will recompense myself with an electric guitar, and it will be a Les Paul. The price range should be from 1.500 to 2.200 $. The reason i write this: About 20 years ago, i played a Les Paul in a small band (we just played at least for 1 year), this was the best guitar I ever owned, thats why I am so sure, that it has to be a Les Paul again. It was a Les Paul Studio, I bought it in 1991 and saled it (so stupid) just two years later. The quality of this Les Paul Studio was marvellous. But in the meantime so much has changed, hasn´t it? The assortment became so big, so that I don´t the F. know, where are the differences. Can I expect the same quality from a Les Paul made in 2010 or 2011 like i had with the 1991 ? Currently I play in a 3-man-Band (2 acoustics/singers and a dummer), the Les Paul will be basically used for soli and concise blues-riffs. I will not buy an additional Amp für the Les Paul, i will use a VOX Tonelab und then directly to PA. To be shortlisted are: Gibson Les Paul Studio Winered GH (=Gold Hardware) / EUR 1.090,- (USD 1.800) Gibson Les Paul Studio Gothic Morte / EUR 890,- (USA 1.900) Gibson Les Paul Studio Pro Plus RV / EUR 1.290,- (USD 2.200) So which one should I take? Has somebody experience with the "Gothic morte"? Is this guitar useful only for Metal and Hard Rock or also for clean sounds or blues considering those two active pickups? Thank you for your consideration! Walter / Vienna, Austria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hello Walter! Willkommen! What has changed since the early nineties models is, that the current Studios are much lighter due to the chambered body. This doesn't effect tonality (although some might argue with this), but they became much more comfortable to play standed. As far as my subjective opinion is concerned I would skip the Gothic Morte - it's too Metal to me and too raw (simple). I would choose the Pro Plus RV, since it has all that the WR has, plus the coil-splitting option. It's more versatile...And it has a nice AA-class top. Plus it's rare, since it's a Thomann's Exclusive. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think a flame top on a Les Paul speaks the international language. Visually, I think it would fit into more situations. If it is a stage guitar with a mostly acoustic band, I think it would tend to look less out of place. But, can't go wrong with a flame top anywhere, right? Welcome to the English side. I wish I could read other languages. Any difficulties with us reading your post are far forgivable for the pleasure of having you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappenheim Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 But, can't go wrong with a flame top anywhere, right? Right, yes. But there is one detriment: This guitar is only awailable at Thomann, Germany. So if there is only one thing to repair, I would have to wait for the returning for mounths. I would like to buy it at www.klangfarbe.at , a shop in Vienna, where I live. But certanly, the Studio Pro Plus is a goddamn beautiful thing.... What is the difference mentioned the pickups? Is there a big difference between burstbucker and alnico??? Welcome to the English side. I wish I could read other languages. Any difficulties with us reading your post are far forgivable for the pleasure of having you here. Wow, thank you, thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Robinson Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hello, There really is no substitute for seeing and trying a guitar before you buy ...looking at a guitar in the flesh and finding out how the guitar feels as well as checking the quality control of the guitar cannot be underestimated The difference between the burstbuckers and the alnico pickups is slight probably no one but your self will be able to tell any differenc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappenheim Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 There really is no substitute for seeing and trying a guitar before you buy ... Thats right, I know, but unfortunately the music-stores in and around Vienna are not good equipped with different models. So thats why I also need the experiences of the users here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Hi and welcome. Gibson guitars vary from instrument to instrument but, generally speaking, those built nowadays are amongst the best threy've ever made. Visually you have two very different choices; The Gothic Morte (limited run of 400) has no fingerboard fret-markers. Do you prefer inlays - either for reference when playing or aesthetically? Matt-Black painted everything compared to high Gloss Wine Red with wood-grain showing? Which do YOU prefer? Gold or Chrome hardware, similarly, is a matter of personal preference. Bear in mind; Chrome will stay Chrome. Gold will wear-off. Pick-up wise; The first guitar you list has a 490/498 pairing and the third has two 490's (T and R) which can be coil-split. The 498T is more powerful than the 490T but that's probably not so important for you. The splitting thing, however, might be good if you are blues-based, and Burstbuckers are generally well-thought of. I don't know the Gibson active p-ups (on the Gothic) at all. I suspect they will be similar to EMGs. Active p-ups are sometimes too hot for blues but perhaps that's just my view. Personally, if I had to choose from those suggested without being able to try one first, I'd take the Pro-Plus (but I'd fit a pair of pickup covers...). Very nice looking guitar indeed. Good Luck! P. P.S. ... Any difficulties with us reading your post are far forgivable for the pleasure of having you here. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFrills Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I use a 91" Les Paul Studio Lite with 490R and 498T. The sound to me is quite bright and not terribly hot which I personally think ,maybe the right choice for you. You can always make a not terribly hot pickup hotter with amps and effects. At the same time will not over saturate which is important in a band situation. As a rock/metal guitarist I have a habit of wanting the thickest saturated distortion and this leads to me going over the top with it, making a solid mush rather than defined sound, but metal is currently going in the opposite direction as thick chugga chugga chugga is getting old and lame. I found the studio stopped me from getting there easily and may fit perfectly within your constrains when it comes to sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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