Japanese Gibsons

[truetoneoutlaw]

I had heard there where Gibsons made in Japan that where real Gibsons that Gibson sold the Japanese companies the necks and bodys that are real numbers maching Les Pauls and Sgs. The only way you can tell the diffrance is by the truss rod nut, the fakes have a stainless nut and the Real Gibsons have the brass nut. And they are super Cheep

 

Anyone heard about this?

 

Outlaw

[bonzoboy]

You wouldn't happen to be talking about the Orville by Gibson which was MIJ with all Gibson hardware but the bodies and necks were made from wood sent from the U.S? A buddy of mine has some Orvilles and Orville by Gibson and I have to say that the build quality,playability and tone are every bit as good as MIA Gibson and in some cases during the Norlin days were superior.

[stein]

Sounds like exactly the kind of BS story a lot of sellers of counterfeit Gibsons make up to try and convince people they are selling good guitars.

[Andy R]

I am in Tokyo right now. I have been looking for some Orville's but shop owners here say they are hard to find. I was in a section of Tokyo on Saturday that is like 6 blocks of nothing but Guitar Shops on both sides of the street. Amazing! There are also some Burny's of this same quality. I found one 1988 MIJ Burny LP that is beat to hell for $350.00.

 

 

Andy

[stein]

I am in Tokyo right now. I have been looking for some Orville's but shop owners here say they are hard to find. I was in a section of Tokyo on Saturday that is like 6 blocks of nothing but Guitar Shops on both sides of the street. Amazing! There are also some Burny's of this same quality. I found one 1988 MIJ Burny LP that is beat to hell for $350.00.

 

 

Andy

Sounds like heaven on Earth.

[FirstMeasure]

Japan has some pretty nice guitars, not trying to be mean or sound like I'm bad mouthing Gibson, but they don't really need to make Gibsons there. They have some of the best guitar manufactures in the world feeding their own market. That would be like making a FGN in Nashville.

[brianh]

Sounds like exactly the kind of BS story a lot of sellers of counterfeit Gibsons make up to try and convince people they are selling good guitars.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_by_Gibson

[charlie brown]

I have a 2006 MIJ '61 SG Standard that is the last incarnation, of "Orville," which was Epiphone Japan,

and 2006, was the last year, that the contract with Gibson was still in effect. It's a Great guitar,

too...with the Gibson "open book" headstock. (They were allowed that, because these guitars were made

only for the Japanese domestic market, and not exported. The exported variety was the "Elitist" with

their own headstock.) A great sounding, and playing guitar, with '61 spec's, as well.

 

 

 

 

CB

[Andy R]

Can't upload to photo bucket at work but here is a link to some pics I took at a couple of shops in Tokyo:

 

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150363513173323.357031.658503322&type=1&l=de9e20a0a1

[pippy]

I had heard there where Gibsons made in Japan that where real Gibsons that Gibson sold the Japanese companies the necks and bodys that are real numbers maching Les Pauls and Sgs. The only way you can tell the diffrance is by the truss rod nut, the fakes have a stainless nut and the Real Gibsons have the brass nut. And they are super Cheep

Utter Nonsense.

 

The Orvilles, as anyone who has played them will affirm, were very good but, as they were clearly labelled as Orvilles, they were not trying to be passed off as Gibsons.

 

P.

[Andy R]

Utter Nonsense.

 

The Orvilles, as anyone who has played them will affirm, were very good but, as they were clearly labelled as Orvilles, they were not trying to be passed off as Gibsons.

 

P.

 

Well Poppy Cock and Piff Piff back at ya!

[stein]

Confusing thread....lol

 

What is a "Japanese Gibson"? I suppose to some it is a Japanese made Gibson copy sanctioned by the Gibson company (Orville, Burny, ect.) To some, it infers a forgery, because "Gibson" was never made in Japan.

 

There WERE copies or forgeries made in the past, but I don't think they have been made in Japan in a long time. Like years? I could be wrong.

 

For me, I would love to be in Japan checking out the guitars there. I have a lot of respect for the craftsmanship, and the reverence they seem to put into the versions of iconic guitars. I get the impression that they problably have some details they build into them that would be overlooked by makers here, including Gibson.

 

Not to be a hater, but the OP seems to be clearly in reference to a copy or forgery. A guitar coming from overseas with necks and bodies made by Gibson and the same numbers? Clearly, a different class of guitars inferred by such a story.

[pippy]

Well Poppy Cock and Piff Piff back at ya!

 

Sorry for any confusion from my part, Andy! Nice place, too!

 

I was just referring to the OP where he says the only difference was the material from which the TR nut was made. This infers a Gibson logo on the headstock which means, as Stein says, a fake.

 

P.

[Andy R]

 

Sorry for any confusion from my part, Andy! Nice place, too!

 

I was just referring to the OP where he says the only difference was the material from which the TR nut was made. This infers a Gibson logo on the headstock which means, as Stein says, a fake.

 

P.

 

No problems.... Just making a funny. Please carry on.

 

 

Andy

[mcmurray]

If the Japs made Gibson guitars I'd choose them over the USA made ones any day.

 

USA doesn't do quality like the Japanese.

[damian]

Hmmmmm...........I had a girlfriend who was Japanese, her name was Gibby, I met her in Korea, and her skin was silky smooth like a Swede,

 

and her family is from China, yet all her parts were/are genuinely feminine........And, she was an American.......Go figure.....

 

She still calls me from her EPI PHONE to my TELE, asking about how our kids are doing................

[truetoneoutlaw]

Thanks for all the info gents. Very usefull

 

 

 

Outlaw

[T-Rev]

Long & McQuade just posted a legitimate Gibson Les Paul Traditional made in Japan.

 

Here's the detailed info.

 

I have one on order.

 

https://www.long-mcquade.com/63972/Guitars/Electric_Guitars/Gibson/2015_Ltd_Edition_Japan_Les_Paul_Traditional_-_Heritage_Cherryburst.htm

 

I'm very curious. I played Ibanez Guitars for years and loved Japanese Ibanez guitars.

 

This has all the right spec's minus G Force seeing as the new 2016 Traditionals are traditional weight relieved and have 57 classics.

 

This limited edition Japanese Gibson has 59 tributes which I prefer now and non weight relieved body.

 

I will let you know what I think when it arrives.

[rct]

Nowhere does it say made in Japan. It says Japan Les Paul Traditional. I don't know what that means, but I do know you can't sell a Japanese Les Paul for the same money as a Yankee Les Paul, and I'm guessing that 3199 in Canuckistanian Drakkma is about what you'd pay for a Yankee LP. Weird. I think yer gettin yer chain yanked.

 

rct

[Mike_L]

There are no Japanese Gibsons, if it says Gibson, it is from the USA, but there are a few brands of Les Paul knock offs like Tokai. The Shibuya district in Tokyo is indeed guitar heaven (there are some great shops in Osaka too). Kurosawa is the most friendly to foreigners and where I spent a lovely afternoon in July choosing my 2015 ES-335 Sunburst. It came from Memphis with an International Warranty which might explain why I paid about 30% less than in the USA (Kurosawa also will cut you a nice deal). I made the mistake of buying two Gibsons in the USA and having them shipped over before I discovered Shibuya. Their warranties are worthless over here. Never again.

 

p.s. Anyone looking for a new 2014 LP Traditional, there are still quite a few in Osaka for insane prices

 

p.s.s. Not to come off as a complete ******, but this is the second thread in a week where someone has referred to the Japanese as 'Japs'. My wife is Japanese and to me this is a pretty f*&cking offensive term. I'm sure it's not intentional. Please stop.

 

 

 

[Guest Farnsbarns]

Wow. This thread brings back memories.

[Eades]

Gibson do release guitars exclusively for the Japanese market and if the don't sell they open them up to other countries

[stein]

Wow. This thread brings back memories.

Yea. When was the last time we had one of these threads?

 

We USED to get threads all the time about fake Gibby's. Is it not an issue anymore?

 

I guess if we want to talk about it, we have to resurrect a thread as old as this one.

[old guy]

i think it is probably because someone posted this in another thread.

http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/124261-2015-gibson-les-paul-traditional-japan-limited-edition/

 

which has my curiosity up, now the Les Paul in question is this Gibson - 2015 Ltd Edition Japan Les Paul Traditional - Heritage Cherryburst https://www.long-mcquade.com/63972/

 

So the thread says it is made in Japan, I don't buy that, i think maybe Gibson made this to sell in the Japaneses Market. Been buying Gibson's for 4 decades, never heard of one being made in Japan. this particular Guitar, has all the hallmarks of a Gibson, and does look Authentic, just the whole made in Japan thing is throwing me off. if it was Made in Japan, who the hell would buy one.

 

[stein]

Nowhere does it say made in Japan. It says Japan Les Paul Traditional......

rct

 

 

There are no Japanese Gibsons, if it says Gibson, it is from the USA,....

 

 

 

 

 

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Gibson do release guitars exclusively for the Japanese market and if the don't sell they open them up to other countries.....

 

 

i think it is probably because someone posted this in another thread.

http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/124261-2015-gibson-les-paul-traditional-japan-limited-edition/

 

which has my curiosity up, now the Les Paul in question is this Gibson - 2015 Ltd Edition Japan Les Paul Traditional - Heritage Cherryburst https://www.long-mcquade.com/63972/

 

....just the whole made in Japan thing is throwing me off.

Addressed and answered.