Dub-T-123 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Oh yeah! I've got knobs installed on the back so I can use it just like a pedal :P It's not a good idea to tweak component values in the MKI, as it is a FICKLE BEAST, but you need to try about 100 different transistors before you get the ones. In this case I threw in some AC125 and called it a day. It's sounding great! Where'd you buy that wah wah? Guitar Center? I've got a vintage Colorsound Wow pedal right now it's inductorless and has an amazing sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I found the Crybaby on craigslist. Now that I know what I am doing I am going to mod it more neatly than the other one I have. I am going to remove all the buffer components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 I wish you didn't live so far away so you could check out this MKI and Colorsound with my Rickenbacker.. It's freakin beautiful Do you have some solder wick or a pump? Should make removing the old components a little easier/neater. Personally I absolutely hate working on an already assembled PCB. I'm always destroying the pads and traces then having to work around the damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Those Colorsounds look really cool. I am not well versed on Tone Benders other than knowing that Jimmy Page used them. What kind of sound can you get out of this MKI? I have desoldering wick but need to get better at using it, I trashed my other CryBaby, I had to jump a few traces but I feel more confident now and know exactly what not to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I guess, this answers my question, damn! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23o4hS_HUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 I had to build one to try and get this sound http://youtu.be/0pzMjZSchFg I honestly can't stand this singer but the rest of the song is amazing. Check out that solo with the original MKI The MKI is an English interpretation of the first fuzz circuit ever, the Maestro FZ-1 (by Gibson). The FZ-1 operates at 3v and is powered by 2 AA batteries. The MKI runs at 9V and is basically tweaked to sound fatter and with more sustain, though you can still hear some characteristics from the FZ-1 come through I like the FZ-1 with humbuckers and the MKI with single coils. Jimmy Page used the MKII (third version) Tone Bender which is completely different from the MKI. The MKII is basically a Fuzz Face with an extra gain stage at the front end. It's high gain and doesn't have the gated, sputtery, compressed sound of the MKI. Jimmy later switched to the MKIII Tone Bender, which is again a completely different circuit and also has a tone control The MKII is the favorite for most people. I like them all and the copies they inspired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I just spent a couple hours out in the sun splicing and soldering wires in the trunk of my old Mercedes... wasn't exactly the fun kind of DIY.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Aye, that blows Did you fix your problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Yep! All 5 wires that run through conduit in the hinge to the license plate lights had broken from use/old age and were causing a short. Some cramped quarters soldering in there, but it went perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I had to build one to try and get this sound http://youtu.be/0pzMjZSchFg I honestly can't stand this singer but the rest of the song is amazing. Check out that solo with the original MKI The MKI is an English interpretation of the first fuzz circuit ever, the Maestro FZ-1 (by Gibson). The FZ-1 operates at 3v and is powered by 2 AA batteries. The MKI runs at 9V and is basically tweaked to sound fatter and with more sustain, though you can still hear some characteristics from the FZ-1 come through I like the FZ-1 with humbuckers and the MKI with single coils. Jimmy Page used the MKII (third version) Tone Bender which is completely different from the MKI. The MKII is basically a Fuzz Face with an extra gain stage at the front end. It's high gain and doesn't have the gated, sputtery, compressed sound of the MKI. Jimmy later switched to the MKIII Tone Bender, which is again a completely different circuit and also has a tone control The MKII is the favorite for most people. I like them all and the copies they inspired The singer is Rod Stewart... I love that tone, I like those smooth but with an edge tones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Really? I thought it was a black guy. I guess Jeff used several different singers? I dunno much about him really except that his guitar sounds rad You should get a Tone Bender for sure. They're pretty much the best I think you may want to avoid ones that are based on the two transistor Vox models. It's basically just a really bright fuzz face. To most people it's harsh. The two transistor Solasound version is fat and smooth You'd probly love a MKI unless you aren't a fan of gated fuzz. Mine isn't too gated, but a lot of builders make them gated to a point that is somewhat unusable to me.. Everyone loves a good MKII. Lotsa shitty sounding clones out there trying to make a buck though The MKIII is cool, but it's descendent the Buzzaround is way cooler. Pretty much throw out your Big Muff and get a Buzzaround Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I am not a big Beck fan after those years, that era with Rod Stewart and Ron Wood is what I like, my brother in law is older then me and introduced me to all those records. Looks like I will eventually get a Tone Bender, right now I am gassing bad for a MojoHand FX Iron Bell. Almost bought a Fuzz Face mini silicon for $60 locally but I am going to hold off for the Iron Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 Got my MKI circuit moved from the breadboard to stripboard. I should be boxing it up tomorrow (today?). My girlfriend got me a huge stash of NOS resistors and caps. Mostly really cool Dale 1/2w 1% resistors. Should make some killer mojo fuzz faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Man, that looks so neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Man, that looks so neat. Isn't that the truth! Dub's stuff is sooooo clean. It always makes my jumble of wires look like a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 My pedal mods and tweaks end up looking like a rat's nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 lol thanks guys but don't be so hard on yourselves! Here are some fresh tunes for you guys. Just found this band, guess it's one of the dudes from tame impala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 MKI Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Doesn't get much simpler and cleaner than that! Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks dude! What's under your iron? Also, I think I forgot to post guts for my raw metal trapezoid germanium FF type thing.. Nothing special to look at, but it's a very durable and good sounding pedal I've been using this one in my band and it just sounds so awesome. Shines through the mix and completely rips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks dude! What's under your iron? Well, I got the parts to try the bass boost switch on my Big Toe booster circuit, so I hope to try that this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Very cool! If it's an input/output cap switch, definitely try a rotary switch! I just got a cool one for a Rangemaster build. This one is one of the little green alphas. 9mm wide and about as tall as their regular 16mm pot. Easily fits in a 1590B with a circuit board on top. It's an SP6T so you can use it to get 6 bass settings! That might seem like overkill at first, but it's great to have two different treble boost settings, two midrange settings, and two bass settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Just finished the Big Toe booster with the added bass boost on the input cap. Subtle difference in guitar, but I bet the switch is really effective on a bass guitar. I just gotta get my bass back from our singer to try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Nice work pup! It should be less noticeable with a standard tuned guitar and a guitar amp. Tune down to c standard and I'm sure you'll hear it come into play. By the way, you can blend between two input caps on a pot if you'd like to try that. Actually it doesn't really blend between them like some tone controls, it adds the larger value in parallel to the lower value, adding them together and lowering the cutoff freq It's very simple, just get a 100K pot and a small cap and a big cap. I'll draw you a diagram if you'd like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 It's very simple, just get a 100K pot and a small cap and a big cap. I'll draw you a diagram if you'd like For sure! Always interested in learning new stuff. I appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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