leovan83 Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Which brand is "truer" to Gibson? I've used Dunlop for a long time, but I've always wondered about Schaller. At some point I thought Gibson used Schaller parts (bridge, stopbar, etc). I wanna know, if you had to choose one brand based on keeping the situation "original to Gibson" (and not to which one you prefer), will it be Dunlop or Schaller?
pippy Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Gibson has used Dunlop straplocks on a few instruments. The spec sheet for the Les Paul 2010 Limited has them listed as standard fitments. P.
WideAwake Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I don't know what is 'truer' but I've always used Schaller strap locks. Gibson has used Dunlop straplocks on a few instruments. The spec sheet for the Les Paul 2010 Limited has them listed as standard fitments. P.
pippy Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I don't know what is 'truer' but I've always used Schaller strap locks. Me too. I actually really dislike the Dunlop style. I've never heard of Gibson using Schallers, however, and that was the OP's question. P.
tazzboy Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I use Schaller cause they have the best reviews
dxdgenert Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I love Schaller but always run into this problem when installing on Gibson's... The Gibson screw head is too big to fit inside the strap button. If I try to use the Schaller screw, it is too thin and cannot screw into the body. I imagine that I could use toothpicks, dowels, etc. to fill in the holes and re-drill but that seems like a lot of hassle. How are all of you guys using the Schallers?
leovan83 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I love Schaller but always run into this problem when installing on Gibson's... The Gibson screw head is too big to fit inside the strap button. If I try to use the Schaller screw, it is too thin and cannot screw into the body. I imagine that I could use toothpicks, dowels, etc. to fill in the holes and re-drill but that seems like a lot of hassle. How are all of you guys using the Schallers? I've heard the same thing on Schallers and toothpicks... It didn't happen with my Dunlop's... but, my guitar has become "un-strapped" about 5 times in the past year, I luckily was always holding it when it happened, so there must be something wrong with Dunlop's design. How are people doing the Schaller installation on LP's? Still using a toothpick? What's the brand of bridges and stop bars that Gibson is using these days? I remember my '99 Flying V Gothic had those parts made by Schaller (it said Schaller, made in Germany).
CaptainNemo68 Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 My 2000 Gibson LP Standard Lite came stock with Schallers. Of course it also came with some other unusual things (at that time) such as a chambered body, gold truss rod cover, a belly scarf, and an odd 492R neck pickup.
pippy Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 My 2000 Gibson LP Standard Lite came stock with Schallers. Thanks for adding that. This means, obviously, the OP can use whichever system pleases him more and still feel 'Authentic'. I love Schaller but always run into this problem when installing on Gibson's... The Gibson screw head is too big to fit inside the strap button. If I try to use the Schaller screw, it is too thin and cannot screw into the body. I imagine that I could use toothpicks, dowels, etc. to fill in the holes and re-drill but that seems like a lot of hassle. How are all of you guys using the Schallers? I just bought some screws the same thread as the originals but with a narrower head. This way the original buttons can be re-fitted if required. P.
WideAwake Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I just bought and installed a pair this week. The Schallers now come with 2 sets of screws (I am not sure they did before) - I installed them with no issues using the provided screws. I do the toothpick trick, always worked for me. Dab a toothpick in Elmers glue, stick it not quite all the way in, and break it off. Install straplocks, let it sit overnight and it is good to go. I've never had one fail. You may need to tighten it now and then, but it's always worked great for me.
leovan83 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I just bought and installed a pair this week. The Schallers now come with 2 sets of screws (I am not sure they did before) - I installed them with no issues using the provided screws. I do the toothpick trick, always worked for me. Dab a toothpick in Elmers glue, stick it not quite all the way in, and break it off. Install straplocks, let it sit overnight and it is good to go. I've never had one fail. You may need to tighten it now and then, but it's always worked great for me. So let me understand, they now come with 2 sets of different thickness screws? Meaning, you now don't need to do the toothpick trick?
WideAwake Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 The 2nd set of screws looked longer, not thicker. I'd do the toothpick trick regardless. A little extra security can't hurt.
Angellus Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 Schaller true to gibson? it doesn't matter TBH i dont like the dunlops. but i agree witht he others, toothpick method and screws need to be balanced
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