latebloomer Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Even if my stock G-string tuner (sounds kinky) hadn't somehow bent, I'd be wanting to replace my tuners with a set that better stays in tune and that feels more solid and precise and well-built. What are some direct-fit replacements that work particularly well? I don't require that they be vintage style, though I would prefer not to have to modify the peghead or pegholes. I'd like to keep cost no more than $60-75ish.
latebloomer Posted November 30, 2011 Author Posted November 30, 2011 Tonepros Klusons are a direct swap. Thanks -- is the 33 model the most appropriate? [EDIT: This post is RE a Les Paul: http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/custom-shop/149860-psa-tonepros-kluson-tpk33-not-direct-retrofit-current-gibson-gotohs.html#post2869998 Is the 2010 SG Custom built differently at the peghead?]
lockbody Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Yours are 10mm "bolt bushing" so you want either the B3, or the BW if you want the same look as your Classic has right now.
latebloomer Posted November 30, 2011 Author Posted November 30, 2011 Yours are 10mm "bolt bushing" so you want either the B3, or the BW if you want the same look as your Classic has right now. Great, thank you. While I have your attention -- what's a good replacement nut? Or is it worth it or even possible to recut the stock nut? A friend observed that the low E and A strings in particular didn't seem to sit well.
lockbody Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 The nut is something I leave to the pros. Bone or Tusc would be my preference.
DiamondJig Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 I replaced my Clasic's tuners with Planet Waves self trim locking tuners, love'm Pull the string thru lock it down start tunning and they cut off the excess string leaving nothing to get hung up on, very stable http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Planet_Waves_Auto-Trim_Locking_Guitar_Machines,_3L_3R.html
latebloomer Posted December 1, 2011 Author Posted December 1, 2011 Yours are 10mm "bolt bushing" so you want either the B3, or the BW if you want the same look as your Classic has right now. Is "bolt bushing" what is meant by the spec "10mm (13/32")-diameter pegholes required"? Also, what about mounting holes -- how do I determine, without a side by side comparison, whether a tuner is identical or needs some modification?
lockbody Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 Is "bolt bushing" what is meant by the spec "10mm (13/32")-diameter pegholes required"? Also, what about mounting holes -- how do I determine, without a side by side comparison, whether a tuner is identical or needs some modification? Yep. I don't know why Tonepros decided to use different terminology than just about every other manufacturer. I think everybody else uses either "vintage" or "10mm" when it comes to describing tuners. Either of the Tonepros listed above will use the same two holes. Grover also makes a replacement that looks the same and uses the stock holes. In addition, Grover (and some others) make tuners that will use only one of the stock holes. Then some Grovers and Schallers have a mounting tab that sticks out from the side. Avoid these unless you're planning to drill. You'll just have to look at available pictures online, or ask a salesperson.
latebloomer Posted December 2, 2011 Author Posted December 2, 2011 Yep. I don't know why Tonepros decided to use different terminology than just about every other manufacturer. I think everybody else uses either "vintage" or "10mm" when it comes to describing tuners. Either of the Tonepros listed above will use the same two holes. Grover also makes a replacement that looks the same and uses the stock holes. In addition, Grover (and some others) make tuners that will use only one of the stock holes. Then some Grovers and Schallers have a mounting tab that sticks out from the side. Avoid these unless you're planning to drill. You'll just have to look at available pictures online, or ask a salesperson. So I think I'm down to a choice between the 15:1 TonePros Kluson BW or 14:1 Grover Deluxe Keystones. The Grovers also appear like a direct fit for the 2010 SG Classic. Can anyone comment on whether the TonePros are worth the extra $20ish and why? Also, aside from being 15:1 vs 14:1, how else is the TPKBW better than the stock vintage Kluson style tuners?
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