Danner Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Will be adding a Colossi bone saddle to my TV Southern Jumbo when I do the K&K pick-up install in a week or so. I figure it's a good time to upgrade the plastic saddle since I'll have the strings off the guitar. Anyway, the TVSJ comes with an uncompensated saddle. Is it a good idea to go to a compensated saddle? Or, should I stick with the uncompensated? Thanks for your thoughts.
ryanfender Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Will be adding a Colossi bone saddle to my TV Southern Jumbo when I do the K&K pick-up install in a week or so. I figure it's a good time to upgrade the plastic saddle since I'll have the strings off the guitar. Anyway, the TVSJ comes with an uncompensated saddle. Is it a good idea to go to a compensated saddle? Or, should I stick with the uncompensated? Thanks for your thoughts. If I am not mistaken, I believe the TV versions of all the Gibson guitars (J200, J45, SJ) comes with a bone nut and saddle from the factory. So, if it plays in tune up and down the neck especially on the B string, I would leave it alone. You are not going to gain anything. The standard versions have TUSQ saddles but the TV versions should be bone unless Gibson has changed the spec recently.
ParlourMan Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 my TV is all bone.... or can I say my TV has a boner?
EuroAussie Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Now that comment would put you in the sin bin on the AGF for sure ... ;-) my TV is all bone.... or can I say my TV has a boner?
larryp58 Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 When I changed the pins in my TVSJ, I also changed the saddle to a compensated one. Pins and saddle from our man, Bob Colosi. I went with the vintage dyed-bone. Really made a world of difference! But back to the saddle, the B string on the original saddle (uncompensated) would get a little flat as I played up the neck. I could really tell a difference if you use harmonics. The compensated saddle did the trick for me. Solved the problem instantly. Maybe some others here on the Forum can explain compensated vs. uncompensated better than I can. Hopefully, they'll chime in. All I know is that it corrected my problem instantly, and now the saddle matches the new pins too! (size 2A from Bob) Good luck on the install and be sure to post an audio clip of that SJTV through the K&K pick-up. I'm interested on what it's gonna sound like, too!
j45nick Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 When I changed the pins in my TVSJ, I also changed the saddle to a compensated one. Pins and saddle from our man, Bob Colosi. I went with the vintage dyed-bone. Really made a world of difference! But back to the saddle, the B string on the original saddle (uncompensated) would get a little flat as I played up the neck. I could really tell a difference if you use harmonics. The compensated saddle did the trick for me. Solved the problem instantly. Maybe some others here on the Forum can explain compensated vs. uncompensated better than I can. Hopefully, they'll chime in. All I know is that it corrected my problem instantly, and now the saddle matches the new pins too! I don't know the technical reasons why the B string is the one that most commonly needs to be compensated, but if the scale length is the same, and the transverse angle of the saddle relative to the strings is the same, why wouldn't any guitar benefit from a compensated saddle? My 000-28 EC has one--and it's not just a simple B-string compensation--and all my electric guitars have individually-adjustable saddles as well. And, of course, my '47 L-7 has the fully-compensated rosewood saddle that archtop players are familiar with. Is it just tradition that keeps us using "straight", uncompensated saddles, or what? Both of my ES 335's intonate well with their ABR-1 bridges, but the saddles are set up radically different from each other. Of course, one is a 12-string with lighter, coated strings of a totally different type, and the other is a "straight" '59 Historic with conventional round-wound "Historic Reissue" strings. For the techno-geeks here, how does string type play into intonation, and would most acoustics benefit from a compensated saddle of some type? Not trying to hijack this thread: just curious.
Danner Posted November 30, 2011 Author Posted November 30, 2011 my TV is all bone.... or can I say my TV has a boner? I replaced the bridge pins last year, with the Colossi bone pins, and I am sure the original pins were lightweight plastic. I assumed the saddle was too??? I need to contact Gibson and find out for sure.
Danner Posted November 30, 2011 Author Posted November 30, 2011 OK, I searched around and found this on gibson.com 2007 at introduction, mine is a 2009 mfg date. All True Vintage models feature: • Traditional binding over fret ends • Traditional tuners • Genuine bone nut and saddle • Extra dark vintage-look amber toner • Traditional orange label
onewilyfool Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 my TV is all bone.... or can I say my TV has a boner? You must be strumming it pretty hard??!!!
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