zigzag Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 They probably wouldn't miss a couple of ounces...
Notes_Norton Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 IMHO It's about time they legalize it, control it, and tax it. Instead of spending 8 billion a year to stop what they cannot stop, they need to make 8 billion a year in taxes and spend a good portion of that on drug education. Personally, I think the crime wave caused by the illegality of the substance is worse than the drug itself.
carv3r Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 that is impressive... i wonder how many of these things exist.... cool.
saturn Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 I remember hearing some guy make a point many years ago. I don't know if the numbers are true or not But he said the US Govmt spends more money fighting cocaine than the cartels make off of it. Why not just pay the cartels not to produce it? It works for US farmers...
heymisterk Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 I am ambivalent about legalizing other drugs, but I am NOT ambivalent about legalizing marijuana. From my viewpoint, marijuana being illegal is beneficial only to the growers and cartels. I am with Notes. It's a fair question: Is the war on drugs worse than the crimes themselves? I dare say Yes...
Jon S. Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 I wonder where they grow it? It seems like it'd be fairly easy for Feds to spot that much pot(if it was grown outside).
4Hayden Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 Wow... that's a big tunnel. And the tunnel had been used for years, no telling how many lbs came through it.
EVOL! Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 I'm with Notes too. Think of how many people we send to prison for simple possession (a non violent and victimless crime). What a stupid waste of tax payer dollars. Prisons should be for real criminals like rapists, thieves, and corrupt politicians.
retrosurfer1959 Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 They should of slapped some tax stamps on it and sold it, That would help the local economy more than bailing out more banks. We need to quit being so puritanical and get rid of these laws that are based on outdated Morality rather than legal need. if you got rid of these archaic laws on personal possesion we have more than enough police on the streets and our prisons wouldn't be full to the point where real criminals are released. We could release the people arrested for minor drug possession and use. And we could use those empty jail cells for the businessmen and politicians that steal millions and call it a days work.
old mark Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 Be a lot of disappointed people in California after that, dude.....:( mark
Silenced Fred Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 I was saying that long before I even started partaking in the use: tax it and sell it. I mean, there would be a huge wave of people going overboard, and Fox News would blow it out of proportion, but I think it would die down for quite a few people after the "novelty" wears off, and the US would be a better place because of it. And I just saw a show last night that said that the US spends like some ridiculous amount on fighting the cartels, but the amount of cocaine to enter the country hasn't changed for like a decade. Hard drugs are whack, but weed? come on
Tim Plains Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 I've been saying that for years. It should be legalized and treated like alcohol - you buy it from stores licensed to sell it, it's heavily taxed, you can't smoke in public and can't operate a motorized vehicle while under the influence.
saturn Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Maybe I'm being a conspiracy theorist here, but I've heard that the main reason it was made illegal in the first place was because of lobbying by industries like DuPont. Hemp can supposedly be used to manufacture many of the same products as petroleum. They just used the "reefer madness" scare as a way to criminalize it. That's what I read somewhere at least. I don't know enough to say for certain that's the truth. My opinion is now that too many people in high places (no pun intended) make money in the enforcement of the laws.
Sinner 13 Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 I forgot I left my herb in that tunnel BAD STONER..... you NEVER leave your stash unattended. [lol] I too have to agree with the general consensus on this topic, legal, taxed, and regulated like Alcohol. the fantasy that it is a "gateway" drug is BS, Booze and cigarettes were my first foray in to substance use, right along with coffee, I was using all of these long before I discovered the benefits of good ol' Mother Nature. Now if you'll excuse me I have a Number to burn and music to write.
Riffster Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Now that the cartels have gotten so strong in Mexico it is scary to think what would happen if they were no selected to sell pot in the U.S.
AlanH Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 I heard that when the Vietman war was coming to an end the authorities were worried that troops, having taken opium which was widely available there, would suffer terrible addiction problems on their return. As a result many clinics were set up to cope with the problem. What they actually found was that it was those troops who returned to urban areas that had the problems whereas those who returned back to rural areas were pretty much addiction free. The point I'm making here is that much of the addictiveness of drugs is due to cultural/social aspect of drug taking rather than a physical problem related to the drug itself. Nicotine is the most addictive 'substance' whereas something like opium (like heroin/morphine) is actually quite easy to withdraw from if you take it for a medical purpose. Another point is that the problem with many of the so called dangerous drugs relates to the fact that you don't know what you're going to be getting, whether that be dose or impurities it's cut down with. The upshot of this is that the only real way to combat the drugs problem that society has created for itself is to legalise them all so that they can be produced safely and then used in a controlled way.
Silenced Fred Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 The upshot of this is that the only real way to combat the drugs problem that society has created for itself is to legalise them all so that they can be produced safely and then used in a controlled way. but they won't do it. wanna end the lacings and **** like that? legalize it so people can just get the good stuff. will you pay more? sure, but having the knowledge that what you're doing is safer is worth it peace of mind, my brothers, piece of my mind
AlanH Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 but they won't do it. That's the problem. On this issue, the politicians will never accept the advice of the experts.
stein Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 This has turned into a thread about legalization of weed. I don't partake in using the reefer. I find that I can easily make myself hungry tired and stupid on my own through my daily life. Don't need to take anything to induce that. But, I don't find that those that use it to be particularly bad people either. But, I think those that think things will be better if it is legalized are not seeing the whole picture. For one, involving the government is likely to add corruption rather than take away from it. First show me a that the government we seem to have can run something with more morality than than what you have to deal with buying pot now, then it may make sense. If you want a model, look at the pharmaceutical industry and how it is connected to the healthcare industry and the government. And also look at how much are paid in taxes for alcohol and cigarettes. For those that use it, I think legalizing it would make your lives worse, not better.
ShredAstaire Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Decriminalized is better than legalization. Did I mention i love weed?
Silenced Fred Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Decriminalized is better than legalization. Did I mention i love weed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlujizeNNQM
FirstMeasure Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 This has turned into a thread about legalization of weed. I don't partake in using the reefer. I find that I can easily make myself hungry tired and stupid on my own through my daily life. Don't need to take anything to induce that. But, I don't find that those that use it to be particularly bad people either. But, I think those that think things will be better if it is legalized are not seeing the whole picture. For one, involving the government is likely to add corruption rather than take away from it. First show me a that the government we seem to have can run something with more morality than than what you have to deal with buying pot now, then it may make sense. If you want a model, look at the pharmaceutical industry and how it is connected to the healthcare industry and the government. And also look at how much are paid in taxes for alcohol and cigarettes. For those that use it, I think legalizing it would make your lives worse, not better. Getting arrested, not being able to get a job because of drug testing, criminal record, questionable people that supply it, black market prices? Just exactly how can it get worse than that? It should be treated as alcohol, period.
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