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Different features including different bracing.

 

Thanks Mike for your answer,

I've some questions for you ...............

 

- what's your preference about J45 Hog, RW, TV ?

 

- you've an Hog ?

 

- I've noticed that, looking at my J45 in front a light,

there's a warped zone on the high and bass bridge side,

a bit more on the bass side, .....it's normal ?

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I have a mahogany J-45, as well as a Koa and Legend. I guess I don't have a preference, as they all have their different sounds. The Legend is the best sounding. I don't have a TV, but have played several. To my ears, the TV sounds better than the regular mahogany. I've also played some great sounding rosewoods. If I didn't own any J-45's, I guess I would probably go for the TV (unless you have the money for a Legend).

 

I'm not quite sure what you're asking about the bridge. Some of Gibson's bridges are thicker on one end and that is normal. Any way you could post a photo so I could see what you're talking about?

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I have a mahogany J-45' date=' as well as a Koa and Legend. I guess I don't have a preference, as they all have their different sounds. The Legend is the best sounding. I don't have a TV, but have played several. To my ears, the TV sounds better than the regular mahogany. I've also played some great sounding rosewoods. If I didn't own any J-45's, I guess I would probably go for the TV (unless you have the money for a Legend).

 

I'm not quite sure what you're asking about the bridge. Some of Gibson's bridges are thicker on one end and that is normal. Any way you could post a photo so I could see what you're talking about?[/quote']

 

I want say that the area around the bridge (on the top) it's a bit warped

(specifically on the bass & high string area)..............

 

It' s a bit warped and the photo does not show any inconvenience.....

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I've played several J-45s and I'll speak up for the J-45TV as well. I got mine earlier this year and she is just fantastic. The only complaint anyone has said about her so far is that she has no pickup. There is still a lot of good to be said about the MC, RW, and Legend as well. I never got into the tone of Koa, just not my kind of sound I guess but lot's of people love'em so they can't be bad.

 

Since they all have spacific differences it's kind of unfair to judge all the J-45s against each other. I would just go with what sounds best to you.

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I want say that the area around the bridge (on the top) it's a bit warped

(specifically on the bass & high string area)..............

 

It' s a bit warped and the photo does not show any inconvenience.....

 

OK, I now understand that it's not the actual bridge that's "warped", it's the top wood of the guitar? I'm still trying to visualize what you're describing. Is the top of the guitar higher on both ends of the bridge and lower towards the center? If so, your top may have dropped due to low humidity. The top should be just slightly raised towards the center portion of the bridge (just south of the bridge), as Gibson acoustics are built with a slight arch.

 

If you "very carefully" place a steel ruler on it's edge just below the bridge, what do you see? Is the ruler flat all the way across, raised in the center or flat on both sides and a small space in the center under the ruler?

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OK' date=' I now understand that it's not the actual bridge that's "warped", it's the top wood of the guitar? I'm still trying to visualize what you're describing. Is the top of the guitar higher on both ends of the bridge and lower towards the center? If so, your top may have dropped due to low humidity. The top should be just slightly raised towards the center portion of the bridge (just south of the bridge), as Gibson acoustics are built with a slight arch.

 

If you "very carefully" place a steel ruler on it's edge just below the bridge, what do you see? Is the ruler flat all the way across, raised in the center or flat on both sides and a small space in the center under the ruler?[/quote']

 

If you explain me how to post a photo I will be more precise....... thanks

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If you explain me how to post a photo I will be more precise....... thanks

 

You have to have your photos hosted somewhere on-line (Photobucket.com/AOL, etc.) Then copy the link from your hosting site. Click on the 6th box from the left at the top of the reply screen (images) and insert the link of your photo between the two IMG brackets.

 

Here's a link to another forum thread which may help.

 

http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=89889#89889

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You have to have your photos hosted somewhere on-line (Photobucket.com/AOL' date=' etc.) Then copy the link from your hosting site. Click on the 6th box from the left at the top of the reply screen (images) and insert the link of your photo between the two IMG brackets.

 

Here's a link to another forum thread which may help.

 

http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=89889#89889[/quote']

 

 

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I'm sorry.........

to insert greater images ?

 

Well, you've got me there. I think you'll probably have to find a way to enlarge them before you save them to your host site (with a program like Photoshop).

 

It's really hard to tell from your photos, but looking at the top one, it looks like the ruler is showing the middle portion of the top raised slightly and the side areas lower?? If that's the case, then that's normal.

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I think Gilliangirl went through a bit of verklempsia over this last winter. I think it was decided, after viewing pics, most figured it to be normal. A flat top box is anything but absolutely dead nuts flat on top.

 

Maybe best to compare to other comparable guitars....

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well, I know that's normal (the central porzion up and two side lower)

 

but if I look at the top with a reflected light,

I can notice that the reflects above the two sides of the top

immediately near the bridge are irregulars reflects..........

 

on the bass string side in a bit more pronunced..........

 

P.S thanks Mike, you're giving me pills culture and

excuse me for my language.......

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Well, I would say (and this is just my personal opinion), if you have to use reflected light to even notice a problem, it's probably not worth worrying about. If it gets to be so noticable that you can readily see it with your naked eye, then I'd have someone (guitar tech) take a look at it.

 

Anyone else on the forum have any ideas? I'm about out of thoughts on this one. (HELP)

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Since Mike asks - or I wouldn't presume to chime in - from what I can see in the pics and from your descriptions, it all looks perfectly normal to me. They are built with a slight inbuilt curvature, for a start. Its perfectly normal for string tension to lift the top a little more - and for that to be more evident on the bass side. It can also be normal to see a small degree of depression of the top in front of the bridge - Martins show it more than Gibsons, often. From the side, it might also look like the bridge is tipped forward just a wince. All these things are normal - the guitars sound so good because they are lightly built - they are flexible and will naturally move under string tension. If humidity is normal (prolonged high humidity causes the top to expand and lift more), and string tension is normal (eg it isn't fitted with very heavy strings tuned high - you'd be amazed at what folks will do) I would get worried only if there's a distinct and obvious hump behind the bridge, or if the bridge is tipping considerably. These things can be a sympton of bridge plate or X strut coming detached - you see it a lot on vintage Gibsons in particular. My opinion - you don't have a thing to worry about - play it and enjoy it and stop worrying!

 

Roger

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I re-read one of your posts and you may be noticing that the top shows a little crease coming back from the sides or rear corners of the bridge - if its how I suspect, its nothing to worry about either. Viewing the top like that, you are detecting the tiniest variations from flat- all due to natural string tension. It's why you also see the ripple across the grain in a thin lacquer finish. These are fractions of a thou variations. Best spend your time playing, not making videos of your top.

 

Your concerns are a bit like someone who is convinced there is something wrong with them until they go to the doc and he gives the all clear. If it makes you happy, take it to a good repairman for comment, and you will feel better. I mean a good one - there's a lot of folks that are not the experts they pretend to be. I'm pretty sure you are worrying unnecessarily!

 

Roger

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