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BluesKing777

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Looks good, BUT the starting bid on eBay can have nothing to do with anything!

 

 

I missed out on quite a lot of guitars through the silent bid thingy, so now I work out what I want to pay and make them an offer and ignore the rest. Some sellers won't take offers, especially the pros, but most humans will take the cash. I look at things a bit different than some - if I want something that is hard to find, why worry about a few bucks and miss out? If I got no cash, I keep away from the dreaded eBay - don't even look at EuroAussie's eBay thread with beautiful Hummer.

 

 

What am I saying - I am not in the hunt anymore, I am not, I am not, I am not, NOT, NOTTTTTTTTTTT. A Hummingbirddddddddddddddd. Not, Not. I sound like Steven King in the hotel.

 

 

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EuroAussie

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I could be wrong but I think it is a TV. It has all the TV features including the vintage case. I believe that 'TV' was not included in the inside sticker, but Im not certain of it.

 

The HB TV's dont have an Adi top, just the J-45's I believe.

 

It's a 2007 one which doesn't show "TV", I guess it has no adi top either. I'm not that interested in it.

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gotomsdos

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I could be wrong but I think it is a TV. It has all the TV features including the vintage case. I believe that 'TV' was not included in the inside sticker, but Im not certain of it.

 

The HB TV's dont have an Adi top, just the J-45's I believe.

"The HB TV's dont have an Adi top'

Yes, maybe. But I guess, an adi top enables a dreadnohght BOX less boomy, clearer. I wonder why Gibson doesn't use adi top as an upgrade to TV

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GotTheSilver

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Couple of things. I thought that the TV series started in 2008 with the limited edition run of 167 each of Hummingbirds, J-45s and J-200s. I don't think they were doing TVs in 2007. Therefore, I would wonder what exactly the specs of this guitar are.

 

Second, I believe that the Hummingbird TV does not use an Adi top because by 1960/61 when the H'bird was first introduced, Gibson had already switched to Sitka. Therefore the originals did not have Adi tops. The TV series is supposed to take the best attributes of the model over the years. If it never had an Adi top, it would not make sense for the TV version to have an Adi top.

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E-minor7

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the Adi top was for the 167 upgraded guitars only . so this could be one of those I guess we would have to look into the serial number for that.

 

 

JCV - This isn't one of the famous 167. You see it on the case and the label.

They have black/yellow cases and says True Vintage by the oval ring of the orange sticker.

 

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roughdiamond

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Anyone know if Gibson will issue a "COA" after the fact?

 

 

For what it's worth (a lot more than what the seller is asking for I reckon!), but I can only comment from personal experience on another 2007 model and I was not dissappointed on build, finish and tone. An exceedingly enjoyable and versatile Gibson dread! (esp after a balanced setup) I would not let the fact that there is no COA or 'TV' on the sticker be of concern from a players perspective. Of course your own eyes and ears would be the ultimate judge. This is only my subjective 0.02 cents and I don't know the seller.

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GotTheSilver

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I am really surprised this guitar did not sell. I would feel like I got a steal if I had gotten this for less than $2k. I talked to my wife about bidding on this guitar, but did not get the ok. :-( I have already exceeded my guitar quota for the year and we have spent a lot for Christmas, so I just was not in a position to buy it at this time, but I would have loved too, whether the sticker says "TV" or not!

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Guth

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The problem with buying guitars via the internet is that all you really have to go by are photos and descriptions. I think its easy for people to get hung up on some of this stuff and in the end, they miss out on some really good guitars as a result. But I do understand trying to make an educated guess and increasing the odds of ending up with something that is going to make you happy.

 

I have yet to find another J-45 TV that I've liked more than the one I own, and I'ved played a few beauties. That said, my TV wouldn't be one that collectors would gravitate towards. Mine was built in April of 2008. and it doesn't have an adirondack top. It doesn't have anything on the label indicating that it's a True Vintage, rather it simply states J-45. There is no certificate of authenticity that came with it. It has a sitka top along with the forward shifted bracing and all of the back braces are tall and very thin. It weighs in at just under 4 pounds and is the lightest guitar I own. Given that, some might be concerned about the guitars overall durability, but I've had no problems with it so far. The brown case with the salmon pink lining on the other hand feels like it weighs a ton by comparison. Most importantly it sounds great to me, given my preferences.

 

However, I'm not worried about resale value. I've seen a lot of guitars come and go. I've actually bought guitars in the past knowing in the back of my mind that I might not hang on to them for the long haul. That wasn't the case when I purchased my J-45. I've only owned it for three years now, but I can't imagine ever selling it. I don't feel that way because it is a True Vintage model, I feel that way because of the way it sounds. It simply amazes me every time I play it. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it certainly works for me. If I had found a standard J-45 that sounded the same, I would have been perfectly happy to buy it. For what it's worth, I have played a standard J-45 that sounded better than the TV available for comparison at the time. You just never know how a guitar is going to turn out despite the specs or the label it wears. More often than not, when I've been able to spend a fair amount of time in a guitar store and play a number of different models, the guitar that stood out as the best to my ears usually would not have been the one I would have thought would impress me the most when I first walked in.

 

Also, I've definitely got nothing against adirondack. In fact, I do tend to like it a lot. I've owned other guitars with adirondack in the past and it sits on top of my Martin 000-18GE that I currently own. However, I believe that there is far more crossover between sitka and adirondack spruce than most people realize or are willing to admit. I've played enough adirondack topped guitars, including a few TV models, that sounded really disappointing to me to know that it is no silver bullet. It really all comes down to the individual guitar. In the end, if you play a guitar and it sounds great, then it is great regardless of the materials used or the detailed points of how it is constructed. Unfortunately, if you are unable to play before buying, that makes it impossible know what a guitar is really like.

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