emmonsh Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 i have a cj-165 ordered[non-cutaway]. i know they supply a pickguard to install. even thou i like the looks without a pg, i prefer 1 on. i have installed a few grevens on martins and always used blue painters tape. 2 pieces on the side of the guitar then 2 attached to pg. This allows you to make sure placement is perfect when you install it[able to adjust placement before attaching permenant.] the martins did not have nitro finishes. would this work or would it damage the finish. which i dont want to happen. any ideas? thanks
Jerry K Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 From the Scotch site: **None of the ScotchBlue™ Painter's Tapes are recommended for use on lacquered surfaces
emmonsh Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 From the Scotch site: k thanks. wasnt sure about it. sure does make it easy to make a perfect placement on it. got a pretty good eye so guess shouldnt be a problem to place it pretty good. thanks for the info. appreciated. happy new year
pfox14 Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 What you need is 3M double-side pressure sensitive adhesive sheets which is standard for PG installation. StewMac sells sheets that are big enough for most PGs. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Pickguards/Pickguard_materials/Pickguard_Adhesive_Sheet.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=7103
emmonsh Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 What you need is 3M double-side pressure sensitive adhesive sheets which is standard for PG installation. StewMac sells sheets that are big enough for most PGs. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Pickguards/Pickguard_materials/Pickguard_Adhesive_Sheet.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=7103 what i need is just for lining up the pg. old trick is to use painters tape. take 2 pieces and attach to top of pg and then attach to bottom side of guitar. this allows you to use the pg as a pendelum. this allows you to make sure the pickguard is lined up perfect. you adjust the tape if not correct and then swing the pg back to resting place.once it lands perfect you remove the backing and swing the pg back in place and lines up perfect. then remove the painters tape/ sorry if any1 was confused. works really good. have used that method many times putting grevens on my martins. always a perfect placement. have never even left a mark on the side of the guitars but none were nitrocullous[sp?]
retrorod Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 That sounds like a PITA....I hope it woeks... I will say, that I have never put a pickuard on before. I have re-glued 'curled edges' on vintage stuff, and that is nerve-racking enuff! People on the forum have spoke of removing and re-applying them. Nerve-racking, I say, nerve-racking!
pfox14 Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 IMHO 3M blue tape will NOT be fine. Could easily remove lacquer when you remove it. What you should use is the 3M "green" masking tape. Much lower adhesion & best for a finished guitar.
SoonerBuckeye Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 what i need is just for lining up the pg. old trick is to use painters tape. take 2 pieces and attach to top of pg and then attach to bottom side of guitar. this allows you to use the pg as a pendelum. this allows you to make sure the pickguard is lined up perfect. you adjust the tape if not correct and then swing the pg back to resting place.once it lands perfect you remove the backing and swing the pg back in place and lines up perfect. then remove the painters tape/ sorry if any1 was confused. works really good. have used that method many times putting grevens on my martins. always a perfect placement. have never even left a mark on the side of the guitars but none were nitrocullous[sp?] What Martins were you putting the guards on? I believe that all Martins (perhaps not laminate models) are finished in Nitrocellulose lacquer.
emmonsh Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 What Martins were you putting the guards on? I believe that all Martins (perhaps not laminate models) are finished in Nitrocellulose lacquer. not laminated but they were all satin finishes.
SoonerBuckeye Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 not laminated but they were all satin finishes. I think that the satin ones are nitro as well----just not buffed out to a gloss.
j45nick Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I think that the satin ones are nitro as well----just not buffed out to a gloss. It is easy to do a satin nitro finish. I sprayed one on the top of my old J-45 in 1970 after removing the cherry burst, which I hated at the time. Satin lacquer is generally the same as gloss lacquer, but it has flattening agents--often in the form of something like ultra-fine pumice--to dull the shine. A satin finish does NOT mean a non-nitro finish.
emmonsh Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 It is easy to do a satin nitro finish. I sprayed one on the top of my old J-45 in 1970 after removing the cherry burst, which I hated at the time. Satin lacquer is generally the same as gloss lacquer, but it has flattening agents--often in the form of something like ultra-fine pumice--to dull the shine. A satin finish does NOT mean a non-nitro finish. probably going to wait till the finish cures before i fool with the pg. thanks every1
Pickax Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 I've used the blue tape on a number of pick guard settings. I stick the tape to a t-shirt or sweatshirt and pull it off a few times to remove some of the stickiness. Never had a problem with this approach.
zombywoof Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Lordy, I just had to attach a pickguard on an old Epi I have on which the scratchplate was actually set into the guitar top. Talk about a pain. It had to be cut and installed with no margin for error. Like others have said, I used the blue painter tape on the edge of the pickguard so could be "opened" like the page of a book. Worked like a charm and no bad effects on the very old and thin nitro finish.
emmonsh Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 Lordy, I just had to attach a pickguard on an old Epi I have on which the scratchplate was actually set into the guitar top. Talk about a pain. It had to be cut and installed with no margin for error. Like others have said, I used the blue painter tape on the edge of the pickguard so could be "opened" like the page of a book. Worked like a charm and no bad effects on the very old and thin nitro finish. always worked great for me. just wanted to be sure. takes the guess work out. every1 i have done has worked perfect. thganks every1
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