grandmaster Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hey, I have a Epiphone G400 which won't hold its tune for even a jam. If i tune it all up, and played to a song, its almost garunteed that the G and B strings especially have gone way out of tune and sometimes the others do aswell. If I tune it afterwards, and leave it over night, it will still go out of tune. Any solutions? Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Sounds like the oft mentioned 'nut' issue Tight nut grooves 'catching' one or more strings, which then move under playing conditions Initially graphite lube may help Or a guitar tech might carefully widen the nut grooves to free up tuning movement.... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hey, I have a Epiphone G400 which won't hold its tune for even a jam. Everything that Versatile said....just a few additional thoughts. Tight slots can cause tuning problems. Hopefully taking V's advise will solve your problem. Also to be considered.....(as the tuners on G-400s are usually quite adequate.) Are your strings strung properly?....(not slipping) When did you last check your intonation? How are you tuning? Use a tuner or by ear? Are you out all over the neck or mostly on the first few frets? (Can be caused by high strings at the nut) Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 When i'm improvising I play all over the neck, but even just playing chords such as A and D will cause the guitar to go out of tune, especially the G and B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Everything that Versatile said....just a few additional thoughts. Tight slots can cause tuning problems. Hopefully taking V's advise will solve your problem. Also to be considered.....(as the tuners on G-400s are usually quite adequate.) Are your strings strung properly?....(not slipping) When did you last check your intonation? How are you tuning? Use a tuner or by ear? Are you out all over the neck or mostly on the first few frets? (Can be caused by high strings at the nut) Willy That about covers it Speaking only from my experiences with my and friends' guitars - as crappy as factory nuts can be, improper string winding is typically the culprit....but, again, as I said, speaking only from my experiences.... factory nuts usually "ain't something to write home about" (dang, if that ain't an old-timers expression...LOL )...could well be tight nut slots ... intonation would be a constant, yes??? and I wouldn't think it to cause it to "go out of tune" after being in tune (well, perhaps if the bridge is defective - sloppy saddle play or something???....dunno - but that's perhaps opening another can o' worms...heh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 oops....double post....dagnabbit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueman335 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Sounds like the oft mentioned 'nut' issue Tight nut grooves 'catching' one or more strings, which then move under playing conditions Initially graphite lube may help +1. Almost all 'tuner' problems are actually nut problems, and most of them are solved by using graphite (the kind used on padlocks). When I started using graphite on all my nut slots, my 'tuner' problems disappered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 One thing that hasn't been mentioned: Are the strings getting tarnished and/or do they feel rough to play? Fresh strings that are properly wound on their posts and fully stretched are essential for stable tuning. Poor intonation will result in the guitar not being in tune with itself along the whole length of the neck. A poorly cut or poorly lubricated nut will cause little pinging sounds when tuning up or down due to 'binding', especially on the G and B strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 What makes a string properly wound, and how would I do it? Sorry if I sound like a bit of a idiot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What makes a string properly wound, and how would I do it? Sorry if I sound like a bit of a idiot.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&feature=user&hl=en-GB&v=Oclc4MHWbzw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What makes a string properly wound, and how would I do it? Anyone that wants to use the locking method should watch that. I know it's not the only method for winding a string...but...After almost 50 years of playing it has never let me down. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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