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I am looking to buy a delay pedal and was looking at the boss DD-3 and the Boss DD-7. I am open to other brands that would work well with my gear and music style ... I mostly play Hard rock, metal, and some clean playing.. My gear is a old crate tube amp and a sg guitar.. What is the difference in the analog and digital?? would i be better off looking for a analog? The only real reason for me to get a delay is my old solid state MG50 marshall amp had a built in delay and i really miss it.. I loved fooling around with it.. I just want a basic delay and i have a few boss pedals and none of them have ever given me a problem... That is why i usually stick with a brand... I am just a basic guitar player and dont need anything fancy... That is why i am looking at the dd-3

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The Line6 Echo Park is my favotrite delay pedal by far. It has tons of delay types of standard "digital, alanog, tape" types. It will back mask, multi tap, stereo bounce, tap tempo and add modulation if you like. I even use it as a reverb sometimes.

 

Best delay pedal I have ever owned and I've owned most of them.

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Analog - Warmer, more organic, noisier, shorter delay, oscillation possible.

 

Digital - Cold, sterile, clean, noiseless, longer delays, no oscillation if you buy a newer model.

 

I prefer analog and the more lofi the better, but my sound overall is noisy. If you are going to go Boss, steer clear the DD-3 and get a newer model. Digital delays have come a long way since the DD-3 was released.

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The DD-3 is what I see in the rigs of most pro guitar players in Guitar World's "Vulgar Display of Power" articles. In fact, I see a lot of artists using 2 delays in the chain...

 

I have the DD-7, which offers an analog delay setting as well as a looping feature. The DD-3 sounds more like what you're looking for, though.

 

 

The main difference between analogue and digital is:

 

Analog: ECHO Echo echo echo echo

 

Digital: ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO

 

 

If you've not tried them out, I'd recomend heading to the local music store and doing so. It's the best way to narrow down what sounds best to your ear.

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Analog doesn't necessarily mean anything is good and digital doesn't necessarily mean anything is bad so try not to get too caught up with that.

 

For your needs, it seems like you will mostly be setting the mix low for like the typical "solo tone" delay thing. Maybe not, that's just the only way I imagine delay being used in hard rock and metal. For that, the DD-3 or DD-7 will be excellent. You could get an analog delay, but at that point the nuances are lost anyways you might as well go for the Boss (which sounds good IMO).

 

Most of the recommendations here are not really for you, they're what other people like for their completely different uses. IMO the DD-3 or DD-7 would be perfect for your needs.

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Analog doesn't necessarily mean anything is good and digital doesn't necessarily mean anything is bad so try not to get too caught up with that.

 

For your needs, it seems like you will mostly be setting the mix low for like the typical "solo tone" delay thing. Maybe not, that's just the only way I imagine delay being used in hard rock and metal. For that, the DD-3 or DD-7 will be excellent. You could get an analog delay, but at that point the nuances are lost anyways you might as well go for the Boss (which sounds good IMO).

 

Most of the recommendations here are not really for you, they're what other people like for their completely different uses. IMO the DD-3 or DD-7 would be perfect for your needs.

 

 

Thanks i think i will go with the dd-3 because i found one for $49.99 used...

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The DD-3 is what I see in the rigs of most pro guitar players in Guitar World's "Vulgar Display of Power" articles. In fact, I see a lot of artists using 2 delays in the chain...

 

I have the DD-7, which offers an analog delay setting as well as a looping feature. The DD-3 sounds more like what you're looking for, though.

 

 

The main difference between analogue and digital is:

 

Analog: ECHO Echo echo echo echo

 

Digital: ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO

 

 

If you've not tried them out, I'd recomend heading to the local music store and doing so. It's the best way to narrow down what sounds best to your ear.

 

Thanks that is what i need to know.. I wasnt sure about the difference between Analog and digital... The dd-3 should do just fine...[thumbup]

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I like the idea of chanman's visual representation there but it's kinda misleading IMO.

 

To me, it would imply that digital delays repeat everything at the same volume and analog delays gradually get quieter. Of course this is not true. The real main difference is that a digital delay will have repeats that are a much more accurate representation of the original signal. An analog delay will gradually distort the repeats until they are just an artifact of the original signal.

 

With each repeat an analog delay loses more and more of the character of the original signal. This sounds like a bad thing on paper but it can sound really nice in person. But like I said, for your uses you probably wouldn't notice any of that anyways.

 

There are also lots of digital delays that emulate tape and bbd analog delays which won't follow the normal criteria for a digital delay sound.

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I have two old MXR Time Delay pedals which is what I'm told the newer Carbon Copy pedals are based on. They sound good but are one trick ponies and the lack of a tap tempo switch sees to it that they rarely get used these days.

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I have two old MXR Time Delay pedals which is what I'm told the newer Carbon Copy pedals are based on. They sound good but are one trick ponies and the lack of a tap tempo switch sees to it that they rarely get used these days.

 

I can vouch that my Carbon Copy is definitely not a one trick pony. For me it does everything from Setzer to David Gilmour to The Edge.

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I can vouch that my Carbon Copy is definitely not a one trick pony. For me it does everything from Setzer to David Gilmour to The Edge.

 

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Just purchased an MXR Carbon copy after a good look around and love the warmth of the tone too!

 

Matt

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I can vouch that my Carbon Copy is definitely not a one trick pony. For me it does everything from Setzer to David Gilmour to The Edge.

 

It's very much a one trick pony in my view as all it will do is very basic bucket bridage delay to a max of about 600 milliseconds. If all you're looking for is a decent sounding delay to kick around with then sure it sounds fine and has a bit of modulation. For me a delay with with no tap tempo, no stereo outputs is worthless anymore.

 

Make mine a Line6 Echo Park please. Only $40 at the local pawn shop. [biggrin]

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It's very much a one trick pony in my view as all it will do is very basic bucket bridage delay to a max of about 600 milliseconds. If all you're looking for is a decent sounding delay to kick around with then sure it sounds fine and has a bit of modulation. For me a delay with with no tap tempo, no stereo outputs is worthless anymore.

 

Make mine a Line6 Echo Park please. Only $40 at the local pawn shop. [biggrin]

 

 

I admit I haven't tried one in the flesh and it does look to have a lot of extra features but the sound clips below just sounded a little sterile to me.

 

http://line6.com/tonecore/echoPark.html

 

I'll take the warmth of true analogue Carbon Copy any day of the week.

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The Carbon Copy is a good sounding analog delay but not great.

 

And Searcy is right there's nothing particularly versatile about it. It's just a decent analog delay with a bit of modulation and a decent range of speed. Can you go from slapback to spacey? Yeah. But so can pretty much everything else.

 

Not to be totally knocking it, I think they're pretty alright, but they're certainly not the greatest thing ever or anything.

 

I think if TNTROY could find a good price on a used Carbon Copy it would serve him well, but I definitely wouldn't pay $150 for one.

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The Carbon Copy is a good sounding analog delay but not great.

 

And Searcy is right there's nothing particularly versatile about it. It's just a decent analog delay with a bit of modulation and a decent range of speed. Can you go from slapback to spacey? Yeah. But so can pretty much everything else.

 

Not to be totally knocking it, I think they're pretty alright, but they're certainly not the greatest thing ever or anything.

 

I think if TNTROY could find a good price on a used Carbon Copy it would serve him well, but I definitely wouldn't pay $150 for one.

 

 

There's definitely an element of paying for the name but the general feedback you tend to read on forums from owners of the Carbon Copy is very much one of satisfaction. Fortunately they can be had new for a bit cheaper if you look around too.

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I have found the Electro Harmonix delay pedals to give you the most bang for the buck when it comes to delays.From the Memory Toy right up to the Memory Man Deluxe they are great pedals and the top shelf ones with the best features have about the same quality of sound as digital machines costing much more.You can also pick up good used digital rigs on ebay etc. like the Ibanez DM 1000-I have seen them for as little as $125 on ebay and they are just fabulous pedals.For info on Electro Harmonix look here : http://ehx.com/ they have man demos so that you can listen to and compare the features of the pedals.

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I take those reviews with a grain of salt because I feel that most of those people have never ventured out of the guitar center realm of brands when it comes to pedals and do they don't have much worth while stuff to compare it to. Of course GC has some real nice stuff, like the Deluxe Memory Man, which is IMO pretty much the creme de la creme of BBD chip delays.

 

I paid $250 for my delay, the CC is just not worth $150 to me.

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I used a DD-3 for a long time. They're solid pedals and you should be able to pick one up cheap on CL. I tried several different delays and wound up upgrading to the Way Huge Aquapuss. Shop around and let your ear tell you what to buy. There was really no question when I heard the Way Huge.

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