onewilyfool Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Would appreciate (simplest) versions of these chords......IF you can figure them out!!!....lol Amaj7/9 C#m7-5 E7/6 Any Help appreciated.....
Mojorule Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Would appreciate (simplest) versions of these chords......IF you can figure them out!!!....lol Amaj7/9 C#m7-5 E7/6 Any Help appreciated..... Amaj7/9: 5 x 6 6 5 7 (barre at 5th fret, dampen the A string). C#m7-5: x 4 6 4 5 4 (barre at 4th fret, ignore low E string - or fret with barre, I suppose). This latter is more of a guess, as I'm not really sure what the point of the '5' in the title is, unless it's the highest note. E7/6: x 7 6 7 7 9 (middle finger on 7th fret of A string, index on 6th fret of D string, barre/double stop with ring finger for 7th fret of G and B - plus possibly of high E for support, pinkie holds down the 9th fret of the high E). This is that funk chord that you can interchange with the same thing minus the 6 (hammer-on/pull-off the pinkie), to give it that James Brown groove. What are you playing now, Wily?
BigKahune Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Amaj7/9 Barre the first four strings on the 2nd fret and then catch the two 4th fret notes with you 3rd and 4th fingers. e 4 B 2 G 4 D 2 A 0 E x C#m7-5 Assuming you mean a flatted 5th - . . . . . . . . (edit - thanks Mojorule) e x B 5 G 4 D 5 A 4 E x E7/6 e 0 B 2 G 1 D 0 A 2 E 0
Mojorule Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 C#m7-5 Assuming you mean a flatted 5th - e x B 4 G 3 D 4 A 3 E x The A string must be 4th fret, BK. Flattened 5th sounds promising - good call. In that case it sounds like the half-diminished chord. If so, the crucial notes would be C# E G B. Easiest option would probably then be x 2 2 0 2 x, and you could add in the open Es too if you felt like it. Alternatively, you could go with x 4 5 4 5 x (again adding in open Es to taste). The latter is the classic, moveable fingering, I believe - it's like the standard full diminished chord, but hopped down from the top four strings to the inside four.
BluesKing777 Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Not much help in the short term, but here is a really great book that shows how a lot of these chords were put together in a fabulously tediously simple format: http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-Jazz-Guitar-Method/dp/0786600365 BluesKing777. I dragged the book out to find the name for you, but now I need a refresher....1,2,3,4 dang, dang, dang, dang (My Freddie Green impersonation).
BigKahune Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 The A string must be 4th fret, BK. Yep - movable diminished. Oops, silly me, I had it at C - here's a half step higher - thanks - and your solution is a bit simpler. C#m7-5 Assuming you mean a flatted 5th - e x B 5 G 4 D 5 A 4 E x
Mojorule Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Yep - movable diminished. Oops, silly me, I had it at C - here's a half step higher - thanks - and your solution is a bit simpler. C#m7-5 Assuming you mean a flatted 5th - e x B 5 G 4 D 5 A 4 E x Ah but I really love this fingering. That's a real jazz chord!
L5Larry Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Ah but I really love this fingering. That's a real jazz chord! The other standard jazz fingering of a m7b5, using the 6th string root is: C#m7b5 e-x B-8 G-9 D-9 A-x E-9 Root Note: All jazz chords are moveable. Know the fingering, know which finger (note) is the root, move it anywhere you need it.
Mojorule Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 The other standard jazz fingering of a m7b5, using the 6th string root is: C#m7b5 e-x B-8 G-9 D-9 A-x E-9 Root Note: All jazz chords are moveable. Know the fingering, know which finger (note) is the root, move it anywhere you need it. Aha, the expert awakes! Thanks for the insight Larry. In response to the note, yes indeed, but some are easier or less stretchy to move than others! I spent too long playing trad/dixie and trying to dep for absent drums and banjo which might have been more at home in the setting: all very moveable, all very straight barre, not many exotic voicings required, and so my capacity for lateral thinking, four-note chords and substitution remains severely undeveloped. Good to learn more about proper jazz guitar.
L5Larry Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Amaj7/9 C#m7-5 E7/6 In the jazz world there is a secret shorthand code called "jazz notation", you have to know the secret handshake and everything. Chords such as above are abbreviated and certain things are just taken for granted, such as..... An Amaj7/9 chord is simply an Amaj9. Since the #7th IS what makes it a "major", the #7th is required to make a maj9. An E7/6 is just an E13. The 6th and 13th are the same note of any chord, and by simply calling it an E13, it is implied that the chord would also contain the 7th. A m7-5 is a......m7-5, hah. I probably played 50-100 m7-5 chords today at a recording session. This is a very popular jazz chord. The two standard fingerings have been given above, 6th string root in my post, and 5th string root in the post by BigK. I could go on forever about jazz chords, but I'd probably bore you to tears, so I won't.
BigKahune Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 .... I could go on forever about jazz chords, but I'd probably bore you to tears, so I won't. Larry - always glad to have your knowledgeable input. . B) .
onewilyfool Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 I bow to you guys and your SUPERIOR knowledge!!!
Jerry K Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 There is a temptation to find a simple voicing of a new chord and stick with that. I suggest learning a chord in 3 or 4 places up the neck. If you mainly stick to 4 note chords this is not that difficult. The benefit is you expand your access to melody notes tremendously. Do this along with a little major scale practice in several positions and playing melodies becomes a snap.
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